VergilReborn:

no im pretty sure you just dont like Vergil, which is fine. Not everybody is going to like the same characters. I agree with you that they SHOULD NOT bring back vergil's physical body, but i would be pissed if they didnt atleast A.) Explain what exactly happened to vergil. how did Mundus take control of vergil? What happened to him after he was defeated by dante? and B.) Explain nero's arm. Its obvious that it's Vergil Spirit, its just a matter of how the *** that happened.

 Thats what i think most fans want. Atleast thats what i want.

You've just said exactly what i want, but no one is getting the idea. I dont "hate" Vergil, i just dont want him unexplainably returned to his original body from DMC3 all of a sudden so people can have his Dark Slayer style and mainly because he looks "cool" for no reason just because of demand, even then it wasnt canon, he barely has more known about him anymore than Nero and hes been in 2 games, but no one complains about him. People go on about Vergil killing Nero and taking over; no i dont want that by any degree because i find Nero extremely likeable. Vergil is obviously linked through Yamato and maybe his arm somehow and that has to be explained because Nero is related to Dante and Vergil.

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NerosDevil:

VergilReborn:

no im pretty sure you just dont like Vergil, which is fine. Not everybody is going to like the same characters. I agree with you that they SHOULD NOT bring back vergil's physical body, but i would be pissed if they didnt atleast A.) Explain what exactly happened to vergil. how did Mundus take control of vergil? What happened to him after he was defeated by dante? and B.) Explain nero's arm. Its obvious that it's Vergil Spirit, its just a matter of how the *** that happened.

 Thats what i think most fans want. Atleast thats what i want.

You've just said exactly what i want, but no one is getting the idea. I dont "hate" Vergil, i just dont want him unexplainably returned to his original body from DMC3 all of a sudden so people can have his Dark Slayer style and mainly because he looks "cool" for no reason just because of demand, even then it wasnt canon, he barely has more known about him anymore than Nero and hes been in 2 games, but no one complains about him. People go on about Vergil killing Nero and taking over; no i dont want that by any degree because i find Nero extremely likeable. Vergil is obviously linked through Yamato and maybe his arm somehow and that has to be explained because Nero is related to Dante and Vergil.

 

ya, for sure. like i said before, i think it would be really stupid if Vergil just randomly came back to DMC3 form. I think you and I have similar views

 

Also, i dont know how you guys see it, but some of Nero's taunts suggest to me that alittle bit of Vergils peronality may be seeping into Nero's mind the more he has the arm attached. If this is the case i would really like to see Nero start using the Yamato as a secondary weapon for the next game (Because he's "learning" -i guess- from Vergil). Having the Red Queen and Blue Rose as the only weapons gets alittle annoying.

Does that make any sense to any of you?

 

 

VergilReborn:

NerosDevil:

VergilReborn:

no im pretty sure you just dont like Vergil, which is fine. Not everybody is going to like the same characters. I agree with you that they SHOULD NOT bring back vergil's physical body, but i would be pissed if they didnt atleast A.) Explain what exactly happened to vergil. how did Mundus take control of vergil? What happened to him after he was defeated by dante? and B.) Explain nero's arm. Its obvious that it's Vergil Spirit, its just a matter of how the *** that happened.

 Thats what i think most fans want. Atleast thats what i want.

You've just said exactly what i want, but no one is getting the idea. I dont "hate" Vergil, i just dont want him unexplainably returned to his original body from DMC3 all of a sudden so people can have his Dark Slayer style and mainly because he looks "cool" for no reason just because of demand, even then it wasnt canon, he barely has more known about him anymore than Nero and hes been in 2 games, but no one complains about him. People go on about Vergil killing Nero and taking over; no i dont want that by any degree because i find Nero extremely likeable. Vergil is obviously linked through Yamato and maybe his arm somehow and that has to be explained because Nero is related to Dante and Vergil.

 

ya, for sure. like i said before, i think it would be really stupid if Vergil just randomly came back to DMC3 form. I think you and I have similar views

 

Also, i dont know how you guys see it, but some of Nero's taunts suggest to me that alittle bit of Vergils peronality may be seeping into Nero's mind the more he has the arm attached. If this is the case i would really like to see Nero start using the Yamato as a secondary weapon for the next game (Because he's "learning" -i guess- from Vergil). Having the Red Queen and Blue Rose as the only weapons gets alittle annoying.

Does that make any sense to any of you?

 

 

 

sadly, capcom just does random stuff to please it's masses. if everyone hated dmc3 and not 2, I can bet you we'd be seeing lucia in the intro, rather than lady. 

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Gurly im not pulln the words out of nowhere. The 1st post that Vergilreborn posted! The 3rd thing says "Kobayashi sayz Vergil didnt die n dmc1" Now thats wut the VR guy typed. But regardless,Vergils comin back! Thatll make ALOT of people happy. And that final fantasy,Sonic thing u were talkn bout doesnt really fly with me. I wuznt interested n Sonic or Final Fantasy growin up as a kid. Sry.

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

*Shudders* Uhhh, no Lady!? BLASPHEMY!!!! I hate Lucia...>_>

Well, Neros taunts and normal speech seem to be himself, but when he posesses Yamato, like in the scene with Agnus, then that seems to be Vergil being personified through him, even though it is Nero himself talking freely. But then again, so little is known about Nero that it could just be him speaking normally...but when having Yamato it seems suspicious and blunt. However, Nero only wants power to save Kyrie and not for himself like Vergil wanted.

I find it odd how Neros Devil Bringer glows varying colours, like:

Illuminous yellow for Kyrie (this seems to be the brightest)
Red for anger
Blue when normal or glowing when something/someone powerful is nearby.

Again though, Nero is related to Dante and Vergil because hes a decendant.

 And Ken:

I hate Sonic and Final Fantasy, im just listening to what others are saying about Vergil.
Ive read through that Kobayashi interview twice now, and it says no where hes alive unless you printscreen because it says it no where, only "dissapeared".

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Yea i alwayz did think that Final fantasy and sonic were a lil overated. But hey thats just my opinion. haha

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

I just watched the scene again with Nero and Agnus...i know people know this but:

Nero: From that day forth my arm changed...and a voice echoed "Power...give me more...power!"

Notice the quotation marks around the power speech? That wasnt Nero talking and it obviously seems like Vergil telling Nero to get more power, which is what Vergil craves. But Nero seems very in control of what hes doing...eh im so confused.

 

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DONT watch it over and over again chica. ur gonna drive urself nuts. All we can do is come up with theories and wait 4 capcom. Theyll give us answers.....or at least THEY BETTER GIVE US ANSWERS! If they dont im gonna b PISSED!

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NerosDevil:

I just watched the scene again with Nero and Agnus...i know people know this but:

Nero: From that day forth my arm changed...and a voice echoed "Power...give me more...power!"

Notice the quotation marks around the power speech? That wasnt Nero talking and it obviously seems like Vergil telling Nero to get more power, which is what Vergil craves. But Nero seems very in control of what hes doing...eh im so confused.

 

 

I always thought that in that scene, once Nero's eyes turned red it was Vergil the whole time. I dont know what was said exactly, but he said something about "And if i become a Demon, so be it. Ill endure the exile.... Anything to protect her" I seriously think that was vergil thinking about protecting eva. (I understand that kyrie was attacked while nero was fighting the demons b4 he got the arm, but Nero doesn't really strike me as someone who would want to become a demon)

 

and if it WASNT Vergil speaking, I think he chose to possess Nero because they desire to gain more power for the exact same reasons: to protect a woman. Vergil didn't want to gain power just to gain it, he wanted it so he wouldnt have to go through anything like losing his mother without being able to do anything about it again.

Haha well I'm glad a lot of answers finally came out. And like I and others have been saying is pretty much right.

You know what I find very funny is now that Kobayashi has confirmed Vergil has a connection with Nero, now NerosDevil keeps saying things like "it obviously is Vergil." Even though he was arguing that Vergil had nothing to do with Nero until he was blue in the face! Lmao

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Salute to a legend...

NerosDevil:

Stop pulling words out of no where. It says no where on that site that hes "still alive", all it says is "what happened after is never explained".

Kobayashi: Vergil didn't die in DMC1, he just disappeared.

Isn't that clear enough proof to you that Vergil is alive?

 

And like Cobalt, I find it quite strange that now you are suddenly so sure that Vergil's soul is in Nero's arm, even though that has been obvious for quite some time already. Earlier you said that Vergil has nothing to do with Nero. Did you really need Kobayashi's statement to believe that? :P

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Lol at least u know 4 sure now ND. Its cool though,we have been sayn it 4 awhile though. But its alrite,at least u know it now rather than later.

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

Ive always thought Vergil was there, but i wasnt sure whether it was his arm or just Yamato doing so after the scene.

Nero seems to be knowing what hes saying, the "power...give me more...power!" was Nero quoting what the voice echoing to him. Nero seems very in control what hes doing with himself, he doesnt seem to be posessed by Vergil. Vergil has always wanted power from my knowledge to follow Spardas path even before Evas death, her death was more encouragement for him, not solely him just wanting power because of Eva.
Nero and Kyrie are different to Vergil and Eva in terms of love and how long they spent together, and maybe knowing what kind of bond they had, since they probably had little of it because she was killed. Vergil disreguarded humans and didnt care about them, they could die for all he cared, including his brother Dante.
Nero seems VERY like a cross between Sparda and Dante to me more than Vergil:

Nero is a demon, Kyrie is human
They both love each other like Sparda and Eva
Nero has the personality of wanting to help others, including the ones he loves
Nero gave a necklace to Kyrie, like Sparda gave the amulet to Eva.
Eva must have accpeted Sparda as a demon, much like Kyrie to Nero.

Nero seems like a reincarnation more than anything, he seems far from wanting power and destruction, along with a light-hearted personality, unlike Vergils who seems cold and unforgiving.
I also dont get where people think its all Evas death that caused him to be the way he is, because Dante isnt that way.

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NerosDevil:

I also dont get where people think its all Evas death that caused him to be the way he is, because Dante isnt that way.

Different people take things differently. The death of Eva probably was not as traumatizing for Dante as it was for Vergil.

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Well this is wut i keep hearing 4rm people around here. I hear that dante didnt WITNESS eva dying. Vergil did. And b4 all that went down he wuz a normal kid....once...but after that he went crazy. Idk 4 sure though. But i know if i witnessed my mom being killed,id go nuts 2.

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!