WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE!

Lol Yea, ur ryt, it HAS 2 b Vergil! Who else???

ur so damn ryt!!!

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No, its even been said that Rebellion and Yamato are a manifestation holding both their powers and encased within their own esense. It wasnt really a horrible comparison since i could imagine Vergil saying those exact words now.

"HOW can u say thats not Vergil n his head sayn "Power...give me more power". WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE! "

And how can you say it is? Dont demons usually crave more power, especially within the Sparda bloodline? Dante wanted more power being able to stop Vergil, and Vergil wanted more power for himself. Sanctus wanted more power when he became demon.

Oh and another hint, Nero addresses to God

"You know God, i always HATED the way you made me like this"

Hes talking in a sense like hes always kept secrets to himself since he was born. And maybe he was always powerful, but his demonic power had just started manifesting themselves in his age. He seems to have gotten used to his arm, though he hates it. The talk with God hints so.

 

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That could b true. but we all gotta wait on STUPID capcom 2 give us answers! (those bastards)

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

NerosDevil:

Did you read the story? Nero was NEVER banished because he had the blood of Sparda, hence WHY Sanctus knew from the beginning before anyone else, otherwise how did Sanctus just suddently think "well hey hes got the blood of Sparda!" They kept him around for a reason and his strength isnt human, do you not think they would get suspicious of it at all when they didnt? Because they KNEW about his past the origins.

If you dont believe a direct quote from Sanctus himself saying hes a "decendant" and has "Spardas blood" then here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1e1Z-RnTaY

Ive played the game alot more and know mostly every quote and single detail. And again, if Nero contracted Vergils blood, then why did Sanctus say "decendant" at all when even the dictionary states your born as a "decendant" which means he was born with Spardas blood. Nero only said "power...give me more...power" Once he had Yamato in his posession. Yes Vergil did feel love, but after being corrupted through Mundus and consuming himself to get Spardas power and disreguard all other for the sake of himself, i dont think 'love' would show through a manifestation within his own arm, especially through Nero; a complete stranger. And who says Sparda maybe didnt have a son/daughter before Dante and Vergil? If hes a decendant, something must fit in somewhere. And no, i doubt Sparda would love another woman.

"and if i become a demon...i'll endure the exile"

Nero was already a demon prior to this, again "decendant" being the keyword to explain alot within DMC4, also when he said exile, he meant in the context of 'humans shunning him and hating' for what he is; also the 'exile' maybe from Kyrie.

 

Lol wow. If you fully read my post you could have saved yourself from that whole post.
First of all, I never said Nero WAS banished. I said he would be if the Order found out he was a demon.
Second, if you go back I also never said that the word descendant wasnt used. I said twice "I dont remember them saying that". However I gave you the benefit of the doubt. My argument is still strong about this in the fact Nero's blood is descendant through Vergil's blood.
Third, and most importantly. This is the second time you blatantly asked me if I played the game. I obviously have or else I wouldnt be partaking in this argument. I admit my quotes arent as exact as someone such as yourself. But dont insult me by repeatedly asking me if I know what I'm talking about. I dont expect everyone to convert to my beliefs, however if you're going to argue with someone at least read my WHOLE post before firing back blindly.

You and a couple others also say that the power quote could be any demon wanting power. Well it's true all demons want power, but let me ask you this: If it was a randon demon wanting power inside Nero, why would they take a direct quote from Vergil in DmC3? There are a hundred ways another demon can say they "Want power." So why use Vergil's? Not to mention there are too many red flags pointing to Vergil as opposed as some unimportant demon possessing Nero. Not to mention the Nelo-esque DT and the DB reacting to Dante being nearby. The quote is a direct reference to Vergil. You would have to be in total denile to ignore all these facts and pass them off as coincidence.

Lol wow are you seriously suggesting that Sparda might of had Nero BEFORE Dante and Vergil? Dude now I've got to ask you if you have played the game. ; )
Cuz it's obvious Nero is younger than Dante. A child before Dante and Vergil has yet to be seen, but the subject here is Nero. So it sounds like you're suggesting that Nero is actually older.

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Salute to a legend...

kk, Cobalt. I read the ENTIRE post, and HTF could Nero b older??? Look at him, 4 cristes sake! he luks bout 17!!! N dante luks like hes in mid to late 20s! jeebus, cumon!

I think that Vergil's in his arm simply because it's Yamato that has to be yielded b4 using devil trigger. And also, because you can use Summoning Swords when you're a demon 2.  So I think Vergil's soul's been caught an put in that arm of Nero's. Like i sed b4, it would help if u new who atachd it 2 nero. it would xpain quite alot.

Yea, ur ryt, all demons want more power, half demon or full, they always do. But, like Dante said in the 3rd, what the heck would you do with it all?! Look at what happened to Sparda. He was the most powerful being on the world (probably) and look at him now! Thats right! YOU CANT!!! its pointless going after power with your life and dying anyway!

How did ne1 get the idea Nero was banished? I'm only on chptr 11 on the 4th. dya hav 2 play it more? I havnt herd him say anytin bout stuf lyk dat... Either dat, or i simply wasnt payn attention lol.

I know this has nothing to do with this subject, but I love the way Dante still has all the old tricks from the 3rd. I havent even played as him yet an I still know this cause he used million stab on Nero ALOT, an he still says Breakdown. Old habits dy hard, eh? lol

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Can't anyone realize that nothing is for certain yet?  There is no legit proof there yet?  Nothing confirms anything!  It was designed that way!  GAWD.  I haven't even played the game yet and I know that! *has, however watched every single cut scene on youtube because she's not getting to play the game until ps4 makes it's debut* =.=;

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lmao ur totally rite on that last part Danjal. haha gotta love the old stuff. But Danjal,Cobalt never said Nero is older than Dante or Vergil. Nerosdevil suggested that mite b the case. And yea Cobalt is rite. SUMBODY IS N SERIOUS DENIAL,if they REALLY think Vergils not the 1 n Neros head sayn the "power..give me more power". It ISNT some RANDOM demon like a few people suggest. Who the hell else do we know that has a BLUE,(NOT YELLOW,NOT RED,NOT EVEN PINK) aura around them? and who is totally consumed by wanting power? oh and yamato..cant 4get bout whos sword that REALLY is now can we. U do the math and tell me if u REALLY think its either Vergil or just a random demon!

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

I know that I've been saying a few times that Vergil being in Nero's arm is impossible, but Nero's DT'd battle style convinced me for at least 90%. The phantom knight hovering behind him when he goes DT doesn't only use Yamato (instead of a Yamato version of the Red Queen), he also doesn't strike the enemies exactly with Yamato when Nero does with Red Queen, but slightly after him. I can't beleave the answers were right in my eyesight by about 4 feet and I still couldn't see them. I still find the whole issue kinda weard, but I'm almost completely convinced now

Cobalt:

NerosDevil:

Did you read the story? Nero was NEVER banished because he had the blood of Sparda, hence WHY Sanctus knew from the beginning before anyone else, otherwise how did Sanctus just suddently think "well hey hes got the blood of Sparda!" They kept him around for a reason and his strength isnt human, do you not think they would get suspicious of it at all when they didnt? Because they KNEW about his past the origins.

If you dont believe a direct quote from Sanctus himself saying hes a "decendant" and has "Spardas blood" then here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1e1Z-RnTaY

Ive played the game alot more and know mostly every quote and single detail. And again, if Nero contracted Vergils blood, then why did Sanctus say "decendant" at all when even the dictionary states your born as a "decendant" which means he was born with Spardas blood. Nero only said "power...give me more...power" Once he had Yamato in his posession. Yes Vergil did feel love, but after being corrupted through Mundus and consuming himself to get Spardas power and disreguard all other for the sake of himself, i dont think 'love' would show through a manifestation within his own arm, especially through Nero; a complete stranger. And who says Sparda maybe didnt have a son/daughter before Dante and Vergil? If hes a decendant, something must fit in somewhere. And no, i doubt Sparda would love another woman.

"and if i become a demon...i'll endure the exile"

Nero was already a demon prior to this, again "decendant" being the keyword to explain alot within DMC4, also when he said exile, he meant in the context of 'humans shunning him and hating' for what he is; also the 'exile' maybe from Kyrie.

 

Lol wow. If you fully read my post you could have saved yourself from that whole post.
First of all, I never said Nero WAS banished. I said he would be if the Order found out he was a demon.
Second, if you go back I also never said that the word descendant wasnt used. I said twice "I dont remember them saying that". However I gave you the benefit of the doubt. My argument is still strong about this in the fact Nero's blood is descendant through Vergil's blood.
Third, and most importantly. This is the second time you blatantly asked me if I played the game. I obviously have or else I wouldnt be partaking in this argument. I admit my quotes arent as exact as someone such as yourself. But dont insult me by repeatedly asking me if I know what I'm talking about. I dont expect everyone to convert to my beliefs, however if you're going to argue with someone at least read my WHOLE post before firing back blindly.

You and a couple others also say that the power quote could be any demon wanting power. Well it's true all demons want power, but let me ask you this: If it was a randon demon wanting power inside Nero, why would they take a direct quote from Vergil in DmC3? There are a hundred ways another demon can say they "Want power." So why use Vergil's? Not to mention there are too many red flags pointing to Vergil as opposed as some unimportant demon possessing Nero. Not to mention the Nelo-esque DT and the DB reacting to Dante being nearby. The quote is a direct reference to Vergil. You would have to be in total denile to ignore all these facts and pass them off as coincidence.

Lol wow are you seriously suggesting that Sparda might of had Nero BEFORE Dante and Vergil? Dude now I've got to ask you if you have played the game. ; )
Cuz it's obvious Nero is younger than Dante. A child before Dante and Vergil has yet to be seen, but the subject here is Nero. So it sounds like you're suggesting that Nero is actually older.

 

Firstly, i was within the context that Sparda could have had another son that gave birth to Nero. Otherwise that would be totally retarded and his age wouldnt add, use some logic instead of coming to conclusions about what i was saying because a 3 year old could figure that out.

"If it was a randon demon wanting power inside Nero, why would they take a direct quote from Vergil in DmC3?"

It was never a direct quote, infact Vergil said:

"Might controls everything. And without strength you cannot protect anything...let alone yourself.”

Vergil never said what Nero did anywhere; and if he did after looking through all his lines in the game, then correct me. I do accept Vergil the culprit of Yamato and Nero from his own words wanting more "power", especially after the confirmation from Kobayashi about paying close attention, obviously hinting at Vergil and the fact that if Capcom really didnt want Vergil back then they wouldnt say "no one knew what happened" leaving it open for obvious progression towards him. Infact, Kobayashi doesnt even know what he talks half the time. I think he also has no idea where this is going (hence the "if there's enough popular demand" aka "go with the flow" aka "where the f*** I'm going?" answers from the interview) from the other topic.

The biggest hint i took off anything was understanding the blackout that Nero had when Agnus stabbed him. He remembered back to when Kyrie got hurt and sustained his own injury and begged for more power to save Kyrie, this is definatly someway linked to Vergil being responsible, but im not making any assumptions until the next DMC. Kobayashi is doing what he always does, lies to put you off the plot and make you asume while you argue for months, then BAM totally unexpected from what he said.

 

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Cobalt:

NerosDevil:

Did you read the story? Nero was NEVER banished because he had the blood of Sparda, hence WHY Sanctus knew from the beginning before anyone else, otherwise how did Sanctus just suddently think "well hey hes got the blood of Sparda!" They kept him around for a reason and his strength isnt human, do you not think they would get suspicious of it at all when they didnt? Because they KNEW about his past the origins.

If you dont believe a direct quote from Sanctus himself saying hes a "decendant" and has "Spardas blood" then here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1e1Z-RnTaY

Ive played the game alot more and know mostly every quote and single detail. And again, if Nero contracted Vergils blood, then why did Sanctus say "decendant" at all when even the dictionary states your born as a "decendant" which means he was born with Spardas blood. Nero only said "power...give me more...power" Once he had Yamato in his posession. Yes Vergil did feel love, but after being corrupted through Mundus and consuming himself to get Spardas power and disreguard all other for the sake of himself, i dont think 'love' would show through a manifestation within his own arm, especially through Nero; a complete stranger. And who says Sparda maybe didnt have a son/daughter before Dante and Vergil? If hes a decendant, something must fit in somewhere. And no, i doubt Sparda would love another woman.

"and if i become a demon...i'll endure the exile"

Nero was already a demon prior to this, again "decendant" being the keyword to explain alot within DMC4, also when he said exile, he meant in the context of 'humans shunning him and hating' for what he is; also the 'exile' maybe from Kyrie.

 

Lol wow. If you fully read my post you could have saved yourself from that whole post.
First of all, I never said Nero WAS banished. I said he would be if the Order found out he was a demon.
Second, if you go back I also never said that the word descendant wasnt used. I said twice "I dont remember them saying that". However I gave you the benefit of the doubt. My argument is still strong about this in the fact Nero's blood is descendant through Vergil's blood.
Third, and most importantly. This is the second time you blatantly asked me if I played the game. I obviously have or else I wouldnt be partaking in this argument. I admit my quotes arent as exact as someone such as yourself. But dont insult me by repeatedly asking me if I know what I'm talking about. I dont expect everyone to convert to my beliefs, however if you're going to argue with someone at least read my WHOLE post before firing back blindly.

You and a couple others also say that the power quote could be any demon wanting power. Well it's true all demons want power, but let me ask you this: If it was a randon demon wanting power inside Nero, why would they take a direct quote from Vergil in DmC3? There are a hundred ways another demon can say they "Want power." So why use Vergil's? Not to mention there are too many red flags pointing to Vergil as opposed as some unimportant demon possessing Nero. Not to mention the Nelo-esque DT and the DB reacting to Dante being nearby. The quote is a direct reference to Vergil. You would have to be in total denile to ignore all these facts and pass them off as coincidence.

Lol wow are you seriously suggesting that Sparda might of had Nero BEFORE Dante and Vergil? Dude now I've got to ask you if you have played the game. ; )
Cuz it's obvious Nero is younger than Dante. A child before Dante and Vergil has yet to be seen, but the subject here is Nero. So it sounds like you're suggesting that Nero is actually older.

 

Firstly, i was within the context that Sparda could have had another son that gave birth to Nero. Otherwise that would be totally retarded and his age wouldnt add, use some logic instead of coming to conclusions about what i was saying because a 3 year old could figure that out.

"If it was a randon demon wanting power inside Nero, why would they take a direct quote from Vergil in DmC3?"

It was never a direct quote, infact Vergil said:

"Might controls everything. And without strength you cannot protect anything...let alone yourself.”

Vergil never said what Nero did anywhere; and if he did after looking through all his lines in the game, then correct me. I do accept Vergil the culprit of Yamato and Nero from his own words wanting more "power", especially after the confirmation from Kobayashi about paying close attention, obviously hinting at Vergil and the fact that if Capcom really didnt want Vergil back then they wouldnt say "no one knew what happened" leaving it open for obvious progression towards him. Infact, Kobayashi doesnt even know what he talks half the time. I think he also has no idea where this is going (hence the "if there's enough popular demand" aka "go with the flow" aka "where the f*** I'm going?" answers from the interview) from the other topic.

The biggest hint i took off anything was understanding the blackout that Nero had when Agnus stabbed him. He remembered back to when Kyrie got hurt and sustained his own injury and begged for more power to save Kyrie, this is definatly someway linked to Vergil being responsible, but im not making any assumptions until the next DMC. Kobayashi is doing what he always does, lies to put you off the plot and make you asume while you argue for months, then BAM totally unexpected from what he said.

 

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Okay wait,im gonna get off topic real quick,but i gotta ask this...is Kobayashi watchn us debate on this site and watchn other sites 2?

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

1.) Kobayashi cannot read; speak English
2.) Kobayashi has got more important things to look at than empty forums
3.) Hes busy probably making the next game

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@ Ken: Thanks, at least someone really read my post and got what the hell I was saying. It's amazing how much people can mix up things that they claim they fully read...

NerosDevil:

Firstly, i was within the context that Sparda could have had another son that gave birth to Nero. Otherwise that would be totally retarded and his age wouldnt add, use some logic instead of coming to conclusions about what i was saying because a 3 year old could figure that out.

"If it was a randon demon wanting power inside Nero, why would they take a direct quote from Vergil in DmC3?"

It was never a direct quote, infact Vergil said:

"Might controls everything. And without strength you cannot protect anything...let alone yourself.”

Vergil never said what Nero did anywhere; and if he did after looking through all his lines in the game, then correct me. I do accept Vergil the culprit of Yamato and Nero from his own words wanting more "power", especially after the confirmation from Kobayashi about paying close attention, obviously hinting at Vergil and the fact that if Capcom really didnt want Vergil back then they wouldnt say "no one knew what happened" leaving it open for obvious progression towards him. Infact, Kobayashi doesnt even know what he talks half the time. I think he also has no idea where this is going (hence the "if there's enough popular demand" aka "go with the flow" aka "where the f*** I'm going?" answers from the interview) from the other topic.

The biggest hint i took off anything was understanding the blackout that Nero had when Agnus stabbed him. He remembered back to when Kyrie got hurt and sustained his own injury and begged for more power to save Kyrie, this is definatly someway linked to Vergil being responsible, but im not making any assumptions until the next DMC. Kobayashi is doing what he always does, lies to put you off the plot and make you asume while you argue for months, then BAM totally unexpected from what he said.

 

Ah I see. Speaking of 3 year olds, even a 3 year old could have figured out that Vergil had a connection with Nero. And that's BEFORE Kobayashi had to spell it out!
Anyways, lets say that there was a elder child to the twins. So you're saying Capcom decides to totally skip any mention of the eldest child and go right to their son, being Nero. The eldest child would surely have some power being Sparda's oldest kid, but nooo let's not even mention that one and just talk about Nero.

That quote you mentioned was true. But at the end of the game Vergil also said something like "I need more power Dante." That's what I was talking about. It's nothing but power in Vergil's head.
Speaking of that, I see you read Kobayashi's interview. I'm not one to brag but I like to boast. Looks like we were right dude

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Salute to a legend...

thanx cobalt. oh and ND is a dudette. but hey ND ur quote is rite Vergil said that. u just kinda got the wrong 1. When u hear Nero say "Power...give me more power" the 1st thing that SPRINGS 2 everybodys mind is this quote "Unfortunately our souls r at odds brother.....I NEED MORE POWER" i could quote that entire fight if i wanted. lol Ya know its just FYI. Oh yea 1 more thing....we (me,Zechra,Cobalt,etc) told u Vergil wuz nside Nero. Now at least u know its the truth rite.

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Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!

I find it sad how people are fans more or being a womanizer or being evil/cold than someone who sticks true to love while having some funny quirks like Nero. Its why i dislike the idea of Vergil so much. Theres no more of a reason to like him. So he has a Katana, swept back hair and basically no emotion, and barely any background information; wow theres alot to like. Nero should never be killed off, because some fan boys want him dead, it irratates me beyond belief.

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