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  •  04-16-2008, 5:44 PM 273275 in reply to 273253

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    Sparda had two apprentices Baal and Asmodeus, neither of them were good and Sparda didnt have any brothers/ sisters, if he did then they certainly didnt take the same path is protecting humanity. Nero is alot younger than Dante and Vergil, infact Nero must have been born sometime prior to about DMC3 or a few years later. Nero was born with Spardas blood and he must have come from somewhere and be related to Dante and Vergil also in someway, unless Sparda had an unknown son. I doubt Sparda loved another woman, Kyrie and Nero almost reflect Sparda and Eva almost, he could even be a reincarnation for all we know.

    For example, Kyrie is human, Nero is a demon. Nero has the personality of wanting to help others to his up-most power and save his most loved person; Kyrie much like Sparda would have done with Eva. He also gave the amulet to Eva, much like Nero gave a necklace to Kyrie.

    Theres too many theories to go on.



  •  04-16-2008, 6:22 PM 273300 in reply to 273275

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    EXACTLY! there r WAY 2 MANY theories. DAMN U CAPCOM!
    Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!
  •  04-16-2008, 10:15 PM 273340 in reply to 273202

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    NerosDevil:

    Technically no. Nero had them before the DB because the Order send him to do "dirty work" and accomplish tasks that dozens of members couldnt't do. The entire Order didnt seem surprized at his strength either or any normal person since hes obviously had it before, especially Kyrie of all people saw he was that strong before.

    If you played the game and remembered anything, Sanctus said to Nero: "Still i salute a man to carries the blood of Sparda while not in Dantes league, you still put more of a fight than i anticipated" He said that in a way where hes always had it.

    and

    "Unfortunatly you did not anticipate a decendant of Spardas blood and because of that you have been outwitted!"

    It never said "inherit" anywhere, it said "decendant" which means you were born from a line which is connected to Sparda. If the game said meant something else, they wouldnt have said "decendant" and said something like "contracted Spardas blood". Infact heres even an official Dictionary meaning:

    de-cen-dant  

    1. A person or animal that is decended from a specific ancestor; an offspring.
    2. Born with specific attributes, appearance from a previous blood-linked attachment/ or timeline
    Sanctus would have said otherwise and the definition proves it, he was BORN with it and Sanctus knew it otherwise how would he know he was a "decendant" from Sparda at all? He never seemed surprized when Agnus told him about his power. Thats why his parents are a mystery and an orphan.
    It never said anywhere that Nero got it from a 'demon' or a 'dying demon' but an "accident" which could have been anything. Nelo Angelos physical body was destroyed in DMC1 and his soul departed. Dont you think that if Vergils soul was in Nero that it would be slightly p*ssed off and cause Nero pain and consume his mind, like Mundus did to Vergil? Not to mention that his arm potrays different emotions like when touched by Kyrie it glows yellow? Do you really think Vergil would allow an emotion to be expressed through his own physical maifestation within Neros arm? Nope, its all Nero but Yamato, maybe not.
    Firstly, Nero did do the Order's dirty work. But the Order despised ALL demons except Sparda. It even says in the book: "Their hatred of all other demons runs deep." So theres no way the Order could have known Nero was a demon, or else he would have surely been banned. Nero says in the game something like: "I dont care if they banish me...anything to save her!" So that goes to show the order knew nothing of his power. Nero would have been banished if the Order knew.

    I dont remember anyone saying he was a descendant. But even if you're right, my point is still valid about being related to Sparda due to Vergil's blood through the arm.


    Now, the last part of your statement you're basically saying that there's no way Vergil is in Nero's arm? The fact that Vergil's quote echoed in Nero's head: "Power...give me more power!" proves Vergil is connected to Nero. You cant deny that.
    You're point of Vergil wouldnt allow Nero to allow emotion is also loose. Because even Vergil himself had feelings of saving his brother at the end of DmC3. Vergil himself also had feelings, though he chose to hide and suffocate them. They were still there. Also, Vergil may not have complete control over Nero yet. Even if he wanted to control him, he may not be able to yet. Perhaps in time he will gain more control.

    Someone mentioned that maybe Sparda had a fling with another woman and had Nero. That's impossible seeing how Sparda died shortly after the twins were born. Since the twins are anywhere from 15-18 years older than Nero, it's impossible that Sparda had another baby. He was long dead.


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  •  04-16-2008, 11:33 PM 273349 in reply to 273340

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    okay so that pretty much erases the theory of Nero being a DIRECT descendant of Sparda,cuz he only had 2 rugrats (Dante and Vergil). so i think its safe 2 TRULY say that Vergil is n Neros arm. And im DAMN SURE,that he wants OUT! I HOPE that he BURSTS out with a VENGEANCE n Dmc5.
    Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!
  •  04-17-2008, 12:23 PM 273410 in reply to 273349

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    We all are awaiting the return of the Dark Slayer Vergil.
    Curiosity killed the world y'know...
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  •  04-17-2008, 2:27 PM 273443 in reply to 273340

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    Cobalt:

    NerosDevil:

    Technically no. Nero had them before the DB because the Order send him to do "dirty work" and accomplish tasks that dozens of members couldnt't do. The entire Order didnt seem surprized at his strength either or any normal person since hes obviously had it before, especially Kyrie of all people saw he was that strong before.

    If you played the game and remembered anything, Sanctus said to Nero: "Still i salute a man to carries the blood of Sparda while not in Dantes league, you still put more of a fight than i anticipated" He said that in a way where hes always had it.

    and

    "Unfortunatly you did not anticipate a decendant of Spardas blood and because of that you have been outwitted!"

    It never said "inherit" anywhere, it said "decendant" which means you were born from a line which is connected to Sparda. If the game said meant something else, they wouldnt have said "decendant" and said something like "contracted Spardas blood". Infact heres even an official Dictionary meaning:

    de-cen-dant  

    1. A person or animal that is decended from a specific ancestor; an offspring.
    2. Born with specific attributes, appearance from a previous blood-linked attachment/ or timeline
    Sanctus would have said otherwise and the definition proves it, he was BORN with it and Sanctus knew it otherwise how would he know he was a "decendant" from Sparda at all? He never seemed surprized when Agnus told him about his power. Thats why his parents are a mystery and an orphan.
    It never said anywhere that Nero got it from a 'demon' or a 'dying demon' but an "accident" which could have been anything. Nelo Angelos physical body was destroyed in DMC1 and his soul departed. Dont you think that if Vergils soul was in Nero that it would be slightly p*ssed off and cause Nero pain and consume his mind, like Mundus did to Vergil? Not to mention that his arm potrays different emotions like when touched by Kyrie it glows yellow? Do you really think Vergil would allow an emotion to be expressed through his own physical maifestation within Neros arm? Nope, its all Nero but Yamato, maybe not.
    Firstly, Nero did do the Order's dirty work. But the Order despised ALL demons except Sparda. It even says in the book: "Their hatred of all other demons runs deep." So theres no way the Order could have known Nero was a demon, or else he would have surely been banned. Nero says in the game something like: "I dont care if they banish me...anything to save her!" So that goes to show the order knew nothing of his power. Nero would have been banished if the Order knew.

    I dont remember anyone saying he was a descendant. But even if you're right, my point is still valid about being related to Sparda due to Vergil's blood through the arm.


    Now, the last part of your statement you're basically saying that there's no way Vergil is in Nero's arm? The fact that Vergil's quote echoed in Nero's head: "Power...give me more power!" proves Vergil is connected to Nero. You cant deny that.
    You're point of Vergil wouldnt allow Nero to allow emotion is also loose. Because even Vergil himself had feelings of saving his brother at the end of DmC3. Vergil himself also had feelings, though he chose to hide and suffocate them. They were still there. Also, Vergil may not have complete control over Nero yet. Even if he wanted to control him, he may not be able to yet. Perhaps in time he will gain more control.

    Someone mentioned that maybe Sparda had a fling with another woman and had Nero. That's impossible seeing how Sparda died shortly after the twins were born. Since the twins are anywhere from 15-18 years older than Nero, it's impossible that Sparda had another baby. He was long dead.

    Did you read the story? Nero was NEVER banished because he had the blood of Sparda, hence WHY Sanctus knew from the beginning before anyone else, otherwise how did Sanctus just suddently think "well hey hes got the blood of Sparda!" They kept him around for a reason and his strength isnt human, do you not think they would get suspicious of it at all when they didnt? Because they KNEW about his past the origins.

    If you dont believe a direct quote from Sanctus himself saying hes a "decendant" and has "Spardas blood" then here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1e1Z-RnTaY

    Ive played the game alot more and know mostly every quote and single detail. And again, if Nero contracted Vergils blood, then why did Sanctus say "decendant" at all when even the dictionary states your born as a "decendant" which means he was born with Spardas blood. Nero only said "power...give me more...power" Once he had Yamato in his posession. Yes Vergil did feel love, but after being corrupted through Mundus and consuming himself to get Spardas power and disreguard all other for the sake of himself, i dont think 'love' would show through a manifestation within his own arm, especially through Nero; a complete stranger. And who says Sparda maybe didnt have a son/daughter before Dante and Vergil? If hes a decendant, something must fit in somewhere. And no, i doubt Sparda would love another woman.

    "and if i become a demon...i'll endure the exile"

    Nero was already a demon prior to this, again "decendant" being the keyword to explain alot within DMC4, also when he said exile, he meant in the context of 'humans shunning him and hating' for what he is; also the 'exile' maybe from Kyrie.

     



  •  04-17-2008, 3:28 PM 273447 in reply to 273443

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    Ah but ur missing a CRUCIAL part of that "Vergil moment" quote. Thatd b "FROM THAT DAY FORTH,MY ARM CHANGED! And a voice echoed POWER....GIVE ME MORE POWER!" so yea Nero didnt ALWAYZ have the arm. And its clear that he wuz once COMPLETELY human. And umm..oh yea hes not even a half demon,hes maybe like a qtr demon (Thanx 2 the arm). And him being a descendant? Its possible i guess.
    Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!
  •  04-17-2008, 4:32 PM 273452 in reply to 273447

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    ken_devilman_06:
    Ah but ur missing a CRUCIAL part of that "Vergil moment" quote. Thatd b "FROM THAT DAY FORTH,MY ARM CHANGED! And a voice echoed POWER....GIVE ME MORE POWER!" so yea Nero didnt ALWAYZ have the arm. And its clear that he wuz once COMPLETELY human. And umm..oh yea hes not even a half demon,hes maybe like a qtr demon (Thanx 2 the arm). And him being a descendant? Its possible i guess.

     But your completely missing my point and not reading my post.

    Hes never always had his arm, i never said anywhere that he did have it, otherwise why now is he trying to hide it in a glove and sling?  Again, Nero could never have been human....*sigh* for the last time:

    Nero has been BORN with Spardas blood, I agree that hes maybe quater demon, maybe his arm is a manifestation of how like its simular to Dante. He got his DT at 18-19 in DMC3, same age as Nero, maybe his arm is encased like that since his DT cannot fully form since his DT isnt strong enough, even Dantes cannot last that long and hes a direct blood line from Sparda.

    Plus, just because Neros DB said "power...give me more power!" Theres no official thing saying its Vergil, and you may aswel say the same that Sanctus is posessed too, because he said: "Love...for a sibling? All that is needed is absoloute power!" Theres something exactly to something Vergil would say also, but its not actually Vergil.

    Im not agreeing on anything, Nero being a decendant and having Spardas blood rules out so many things people are saying here. Who says anyway too that if Nero didnt hold rebellion that he'd be the same as Dante?



  •  04-17-2008, 5:22 PM 273468 in reply to 273452

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    Well for 1,Dante would have 2 b dead and his soul n the sword 4 nething 2 happen if Nero got a hold of rebellion. And that wuz a HORRIBLE comparison between Neros "Vergil Moment" and Sanctus. HOW can u say thats not Vergil n his head sayn "Power...give me more power". WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE!
    Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!
  •  04-17-2008, 5:26 PM 273469 in reply to 273452

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    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    Nero has been BORN with Spardas blood??? HOW???!!! He couldn't be Spardas kid, an I doubt that Vergil actually got a girl *snigger*, so how could he be BORN with Spardas blood? Tell me THAT!!! 

    Why cant every1 just agree with devilman here and get it 2 grips that Nero is'nt actually a relative 2 Spards at all, he just damages his right shoulder (as it says in the manual) ang got that arm. It would make more sense 2 me if I knew who attachd dat particular arm 2 him. Coz Agnus says dat he captured demons souls and put them in other things, right? Thats OBVIOUSLY what happened 2 Vergil, seeing he was trapped (supposedly) in the Demon world. But after playing the 1st, I was confused. Yeah, in a special video at the end of the 3rd u get 2 c Vergil square off 2 Mundus, but the 1st says he was defeated. And later defeated AGAIN inn the 1st by Dante. And the 4th is afterwards, coz Trish is there, so how could Vergil be in his arm??? Didn't he die??? (gawd, Vergil dies ALOT...) I'm confusing myself... I'll let u guys think of it 4 me lol.

     An NerosDevil, wats all dis bout u fitin wiv anuvr prson here? WHO???!!! U shudnt get wurkd up by losers on this syt. Theyre just afraid of other peoples opinions. KEEP SAYING WHAT YOU THINK, ITS WHAT THIS SITE IS HERE FOR!!! DONT FIGHT!!!!!


  •  04-17-2008, 5:27 PM 273470 in reply to 273468

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    I think alot of Demons crave power... call me Crazy, I dont remmember Vergil quoteing thoes words exsactly , but It is somthing he would say. it is possible its not Vergil in there, but I persinally doubt it... only because Nero resorected the Yamato >_>;...

    Feel free to tear my post to pieces and place your opinions on it.

    But as far as Nero's Demon arm, Is it at all possible that when Dante killed Nelo/Nero Angelo in DMC1, he didnt Die, but Retreated off, and was than hunted down by the Order?. Than Nero was sent to "do the dirty work" and Recieved a wound on his arm, and Nelo "infected" his arm? I remmember Nero's girl there mentioning "How is your arm" (Sorry, Cant remmember her name for the life of me =p) Wich would relate to a Recent wound. Causeing Vergils essence to infect Nero's arm, not necisarely makeing him Vergil, just giveing him his power.


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  •  04-17-2008, 5:28 PM 273471 in reply to 273468

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    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE!

    Lol Yea, ur ryt, it HAS 2 b Vergil! Who else???


  •  04-17-2008, 5:28 PM 273473 in reply to 273468

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    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE!

    Lol Yea, ur ryt, it HAS 2 b Vergil! Who else???

    ur
  •  04-17-2008, 5:28 PM 273474 in reply to 273468

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    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE!

    Lol Yea, ur ryt, it HAS 2 b Vergil! Who else???

    ur so
  •  04-17-2008, 5:28 PM 273475 in reply to 273468

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    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    WHO ELSE would it b? SANTA CLAUSE!

    Lol Yea, ur ryt, it HAS 2 b Vergil! Who else???

    ur so damn
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