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Could Nero be the son of Virgil

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  •  03-23-2008, 6:40 PM 268058 in reply to 268041

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Vergil

    Cobalt:
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    So that leaves Virgil. The physical similarities (the white hair etc) along with his ability to resurrect Yamato make me think this is the most likely scenario. I think, Virgil had a child with a demon while in the underworld (considering Nero's age this would be about 10 to 15 years before DMC1). That would make Nero a 3/4 demon who has spent his life in the human world. That would explain why he has a demon arm permanently, rather than just in DT like Dante or Virgil, it's because he has more demon blood. If you read the book from DMC4 it says the arm emerged when he came into contact with a demon, so I think the demon in Nero was awakened at that moment. I think it is likely that Virgil would have given his son to the Order, because if left in the Demon world, Mundus would have surly enslaved him.

    Also if you look, the Demon behind Nero when he is in DT, looks like Nelo Angelo, but not the same, this seems to add to my theory, as the son of Virgil would have a similar demon form, but not the same.

    However, to add to the above theory of reincarnation, the line Nero says when speaking of the moment his arm transformed is "on that day, I heard a voice echo in my head 'power, give me more power'". That may be a memory from a past life, as Virgil did say that a lot. 

    Second, when Virgil died in DMC1, his soul found its way to a baby Nero and now resides in his arm. That soul was awakened when Nero was attacked by a demon, and resulted in the demonic transformation of that arm. It would then explain why the arm reacts to Dante and no other demon, and this was before he gained Yamato, it would explain the voice in his head, and how he was able to resurrect the sword.

     

    The years dont add up for the possibility of Nero being Vergil's son. Vergil would be in his 30's by part 4. Nero is around 19. So Vergil would have had sex with a woman when he was 12-15. And Vergil wasnt the type of person to be intimate with anyone.
    I read the book and I remember that bit about Nero coming into contact with a demon when the arm emerged. I'll get to that part later...

    About his DT. It's true the demon behind him doesnt look exactly like Nelo. But in every DmC game, the DT is different from the last time. Am I right? So a slight difference in the shadow and Nelo is really nothing. It is still very possible it's Nelo Angelo.

    About reincarnation of Vergil. If Vergil possesed his arm, it makes sense that Vergil's quote echoed in his head too. Also, if Nero were the reincarnation of Vergil, Nelo Angelo would have died about 19 years ago. And I dont think 19 years passed between DmC1 and 4.

    Now about that demon the book said he encountered. Since Nero had that cast on his arm to hide it, and Kyrie asks him how his arm is feeling. I am assuming when he encountered this demon, he probably received his Devil Arm. This demon he encountered was most likely Nelo Angelo and his power was transferred at that time. Kyrie and Nero have known eachother since childhood. If he had that arm all along she would have noticed it. So it makes sense that he acquired it recently, and had to hide it with a cast.

     

     

     

    Yeah and thats when nero and dante where fighting the devil bringer reacted when fighting dante because of vergil inside it, and remember in dmc 3 when vergil was trying to get the power of sparda it keeps echoing give me power and that vergil kept fighting dante and if the devil bringer reacted to dante it should mean that nero's arm is maybe possesed by vergils spirit

  •  03-23-2008, 6:46 PM 268061 in reply to 264084

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    The answer 2 this question is simple......THE ANSWER IS NO!
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  •  03-23-2008, 7:21 PM 268063 in reply to 268041

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Vergil

    Cobalt:
    The years dont add up for the possibility of Nero being Vergil's son. Vergil would be in his 30's by part 4. Nero is around 19. So Vergil would have had sex with a woman when he was 12-15. And Vergil wasnt the type of person to be intimate with anyone.
    By DMC4 he would be in his late 30s, lets say 39 (to make the math easy) and if Nero is 19, that would make Virgil 20 when he was born. He would have been in the demon world by then.

    Cobalt:
    About his DT. It's true the demon behind him doesnt look exactly like Nelo. But in every DmC game, the DT is different from the last time. Am I right? So a slight difference in the shadow and Nelo is really nothing. It is still very possible it's Nelo Angelo.
    I'll give you that one.

    Cobalt:
    About reincarnation of Vergil. If Vergil possesed his arm, it makes sense that Vergil's quote echoed in his head too. Also, if Nero were the reincarnation of Vergil, Nelo Angelo would have died about 19 years ago. And I dont think 19 years passed between DmC1 and 4.
    Yes, indeed I agree with you. (However time could pass slower in the Demon world, as it does in most renditions of hell).

    Cobalt:
    Now about that demon the book said he encountered. Since Nero had that cast on his arm to hide it, and Kyrie asks him how his arm is feeling. I am assuming when he encountered this demon, he probably received his Devil Arm. This demon he encountered was most likely Nelo Angelo and his power was transferred at that time. Kyrie and Nero have known eachother since childhood. If he had that arm all along she would have noticed it. So it makes sense that he acquired it recently, and had to hide it with a cast.
    I never said he had it since he was a child, I said it emerged the day of the attack. However, Virgil and this Nelo Angelo would have been long dead at this point.
  •  03-24-2008, 2:41 AM 268102 in reply to 268063

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Vergil

    Vergil couldn't've had a son. He wouldn't have the need for it, it ain't his personality. Think he'd have the balls to ask a chick out, let alone have sex him? XD

    I mean, c'mon.

     It's blindly obvious that Nero ain't the son of Vergil. They look nothing alike, for starters.

     Another thing, if, say for example, Dante had a son, do you think he'd have a devilish lookin' arm? No.

    And again, Nero's DT isn't DT in it's truest form. Nero himself doesn't transform (for lack of a better word), it's just Vergil's Devil Form that appears above him.

    Plus, Nero, as far as we know, don't have a surname. Dante and Vergil have their fathers name as their surname.


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  •  03-24-2008, 7:45 PM 268258 in reply to 268102

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Vergil

    I think that everything that could possibly be said on the subjects has been said, we have about 5 conflicting theories, everybody pick one. :P

    Where does it say Dante and Virgil use Sparda as their surnames? I thought that they aren't even their real names, and at their mother's dieing request they took up aliases.  

  •  03-24-2008, 10:41 PM 268283 in reply to 268258

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Vergil

    Here's what I think. Nero is Dante's son.

    See how much they look alike? White hair, parshall to the color red... see where I'm going? Also, it's already known that maybe somewhere Dante has a son because in one of the games (can't remember where) he says "Send my regards to my son." or something like that.

    Who really knows how old Dante and Vergil are? Is it published by Capricorn or is it just people trying to guess. If it is published somewhere, send me a link. I personally think that their years aren't the same as ours, and they are really older than they look, making it possible for either of them to have children. Once again, the age thing, how old is Nero really? He could be younger than he looks, maybe what? 16? 17?

     Though I have to say that it's a bit odd that Nero's demon part seem more like Vergil...

    Another loop hole. I think if Dante did have a child that he would take care of it, it just seems to be in his nature. Who knows, maybe there where circumstances that made him give up the child. As for Dante knowing nothing about the Order of the Sword, he could have been bluffing.

    That's all I have to say...for now...



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  •  03-25-2008, 8:52 AM 268296 in reply to 268283

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Vergil

    When Dante says "Send regards to my son" to Mundus at the end of DMC I think he was just being ***. Sparda defeated Mundus, then when he returned Sparda's son Dante defeated him, and when he returns again Dante's son will defeat him once more. Or at least that's what I think he was meant.

     As for age, well yes they may age slower, but in DMC 3 when he was 19, he had a neon sign and Lady had a modern motorbike. While they may age slower, I think we have seen them in real time so far (they may live to be 2000 for all we know) but I think Dante really is about 40 in DMC4, but he only looks about 30.
     

  •  03-28-2008, 7:46 AM 268856 in reply to 264084

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    I think that Nero is the son of Virgil, but to the fact that he looks nothing like him, if you remember the cutscene after their first fight, Virgils hair is down and he looks EXACTILY like Dante. Virgil could have passed down the Yamato to Nero and the Devil trigger could have manifested into Nero as a different form like his arm. Also i thought that instead of Mundus killing Virgil, that he took control of his mind and put him in Nelos armor. 
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  •  03-28-2008, 6:49 PM 269051 in reply to 268856

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    i dont think nero is virgil's son its just to far fetched but with that said anything is possible. I just think virgil is inside nero maybe the deamon that injured nero's arm was a weaked mundus and virgil entered nero to fight him just think about it its possible mudus is out of the demon world regaining his strength to fight dante he could of curupted the order to lure out dante
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  •  03-29-2008, 7:49 AM 269216 in reply to 268856

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    Mobius:
    I think that Nero is the son of Virgil, but to the fact that he looks nothing like him, if you remember the cutscene after their first fight, Virgils hair is down and he looks EXACTILY like Dante. Virgil could have passed down the Yamato to Nero and the Devil trigger could have manifested into Nero as a different form like his arm. Also i thought that instead of Mundus killing Virgil, that he took control of his mind and put him in Nelos armor. 

    Sigh... This is starting to be ridiculous, but I'm going to say this once more...

    How can you say that Nero is Vergil's son after knowing all the facts that completely make your statement impossible? Dante and Vergil look exactly the same, because they are identical twins. Vergil was killed in the fight against Mundus, and Dante destroyed Nelo Angelo releasing Vergil's soul from inside of it. Nero's arm absorbed Vergil's soul from Yamato, and that's how much we know for now.

    I'm just waiting Capcom to verify this or making themselves look like complete fools by once again contradicting their own words...



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  •  04-02-2008, 11:25 AM 270307 in reply to 269216

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    It could be possible.. I mean.. What's to say he didn't?

     

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  •  04-03-2008, 11:30 AM 270526 in reply to 269216

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    I am TOTALLY with ya on this 1 Z! Its gettn ridicoulous! Vergil is not....repeat.....is NOT Vergils kid! Vergil is dead unfortunately. Hes dead 4 NOW! i said this n ANOTHER thread! If Vergil had a kid itd b Part demon! Nero is COMPLETELY human! With the exception of VERGILS ARM! Its that simple
    Dude, my father didn't look so hideous, can't ya tell by lookin at me?!!!!!
  •  04-03-2008, 1:32 PM 270615 in reply to 270526

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    I think that'd be freaking awesome if Nero was Vergil's (Or Dante's or Sparda's) son, but alas, I have to agree with everyone who says he isn't. =/
  •  04-05-2008, 12:26 PM 271032 in reply to 270615

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    This can be stopped easily. Nero is no one's kid first all, Capcom just liked that design and kept it. What is DMC without white haired, blue eyed hotties? Another thing as was stated many times, Nero is only getting loopy because of Vergil's possession of him. Other than that he'd just be ...well normal.

     


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  •  04-07-2008, 9:49 AM 271305 in reply to 270526

    Re: Could Nero be the son of Virgil

    ken_devilman_06:
    Nero is COMPLETELY human!

    nero is immortal   



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