DanteMustDieDT:

alrighty there slick im waitin

and im not a noob or a nerd but whatever makes you feel like your right

good job with the big words there too im sure everyones proud that your trying to sound intelligent

so where is this overwhelming evidence 

im waiting....... 

 

Well, my originally intended evidence was the replies to my IGN board post that I gave the link to under "Noob" in my last post HERE.

However, it seems you lack the ability to notice things like that. So I'll make it easy for you.

And I'll use small words so you are sure to understand.

first reply says this: 

Project_Rebirth:

They're identical twins. Their profiles state: "Identical faces, Identical powers

Dex (who posts on SOS sometimes) who is a DMC genius says: 

DexterXS:

They are canonically identical, says so in the manual and in the manga.

In terms of their faces in the game, I would bet they have the same head/face model. If you watch the cutscenes again, I think you'll notice they ARE in face identical. It is just a matter of hairstyle, eyebrow shape and expression, that makes them look so different.

Add these with the majority of others that believe the same thing, you get overwhelming evidence since we have MANY witnesses to support my claim.

And in case that's not good enough for you, bob44903 provides this link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WA8qLNiWD1c

 Check and mate

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your completely missing my argument. 

of course they look alike its way easier to use the same character model and change the hair then make a new one. and saying some random guy thats a DMC "genius" agrees that they look alike isnt proving anything. im saying two different people should be played by two different people. all you've said in your post is that people agree they look alike. i think they look alike. everyone knows they look alike.

pay attention this time 

Dante and Virgil, although they are the same character model and look identical, are two different people and should be represented by two different people. it would be a lot more work for a movie to have to cgi half the fight scenes and face paste and other things than to just have two actors. i highly doubt that an actor found to play dante will look like him anyway, let alone be an exact match so its a waste to make him play both parts when you could just get another actor and not struggle with cgi cuts and fixes.  

i hope you've kept up this time

now you give me an argument and not spew crap about how they're the same character model and people agree with you. 

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"Whatever,do as you please"

I totally agree with you.

And the concept DMC genius smacks of scary fanboy to me.What a massive ego this guy must have.

How can anyone say they are a genius at anything?Id say the authority is the writers of DMC.

The idea to use one guy and do all that pointless fussing with cgi and faces is stupid.

Sounds like geeks trying to overcomplicate things with pointless amounts of cgi to me.Like Beowulf.They coulda made a decent film with real actors and real sets for half the money but they went for the stupid and expensive route.

Dante is a good hunter and Vergil is a dark hunter.

2 diferent men.

So 2 diferent actors.

 

 

 

 

 

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 i agree that there should be two different actors but there is not any good actor that look like either

of them but there is always makeup cgi dosent solve every thing

 

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kill one thousand you are a hero
kill them all and you are a god

DanteMustDieDT:

your completely missing my argument. 

of course they look alike its way easier to use the same character model and change the hair then make a new one. and saying some random guy thats a DMC "genius" agrees that they look alike isnt proving anything. im saying two different people should be played by two different people. all you've said in your post is that people agree they look alike. i think they look alike. everyone knows they look alike.

pay attention this time 

Dante and Virgil, although they are the same character model and look identical, are two different people and should be represented by two different people. it would be a lot more work for a movie to have to cgi half the fight scenes and face paste and other things than to just have two actors. i highly doubt that an actor found to play dante will look like him anyway, let alone be an exact match so its a waste to make him play both parts when you could just get another actor and not struggle with cgi cuts and fixes.  

i hope you've kept up this time

now you give me an argument and not spew crap about how they're the same character model and people agree with you. 

 

Watch The One with Jet Li and you'll see how DMC could look with those effects

'nuff said

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I have seen the one it is a good movie and you barely notice there both jet li

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Kill one man you are a murderer
kill one thousand you are a hero
kill them all and you are a god

gearuvagen:

I have seen the one it is a good movie and you barely notice there both jet li

don't you mean you barely notice they're NOT both Jet Li?

 

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Gilver:

DanteMustDieDT:

your completely missing my argument. 

of course they look alike its way easier to use the same character model and change the hair then make a new one. and saying some random guy thats a DMC "genius" agrees that they look alike isnt proving anything. im saying two different people should be played by two different people. all you've said in your post is that people agree they look alike. i think they look alike. everyone knows they look alike.

pay attention this time 

Dante and Virgil, although they are the same character model and look identical, are two different people and should be represented by two different people. it would be a lot more work for a movie to have to cgi half the fight scenes and face paste and other things than to just have two actors. i highly doubt that an actor found to play dante will look like him anyway, let alone be an exact match so its a waste to make him play both parts when you could just get another actor and not struggle with cgi cuts and fixes.  

i hope you've kept up this time

now you give me an argument and not spew crap about how they're the same character model and people agree with you. 

 

Watch The One with Jet Li and you'll see how DMC could look with those effects

'nuff said

 

hahaha

can you name a good movie?

and your doing the same thing as before yes it can be done duh your still not paying attention

im saying it would be better with two people not that you cant do it with one. just cause they are the same in the game is the your reason for using one person. not good enough i need more support. whats another reason its highly unpractical to do that if you could use two actors.

your really slow

its like im arguing with a furby

ill await your second attempt
 

 

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"Whatever,do as you please"

dae aue:

I totally agree with you.

And the concept DMC genius smacks of scary fanboy to me.What a massive ego this guy must have.

How can anyone say they are a genius at anything?Id say the authority is the writers of DMC.

The idea to use one guy and do all that pointless fussing with cgi and faces is stupid.

Sounds like geeks trying to overcomplicate things with pointless amounts of cgi to me.Like Beowulf.They coulda made a decent film with real actors and real sets for half the money but they went for the stupid and expensive route.

Dante is a good hunter and Vergil is a dark hunter.

2 diferent men.

So 2 diferent actors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANK YOU SIR.

finally someone intelligent 

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"Whatever,do as you please"

Thanks.

Id say the casting of this film depends a lot on whether the producers are smart and look all over or someone whos stupid and goes for and panders to the big names and companies.

I hope its someone smart.

i really want this film/s to be the best.

 

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yea they should give it to a visionary director like darren arnofsky or danny boyle

they should use unknowns like in the warriors 

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"Whatever,do as you please"

DanteMustDieDT:

Gilver:

DanteMustDieDT:

your completely missing my argument. 

of course they look alike its way easier to use the same character model and change the hair then make a new one. and saying some random guy thats a DMC "genius" agrees that they look alike isnt proving anything. im saying two different people should be played by two different people. all you've said in your post is that people agree they look alike. i think they look alike. everyone knows they look alike.

pay attention this time 

Dante and Virgil, although they are the same character model and look identical, are two different people and should be represented by two different people. it would be a lot more work for a movie to have to cgi half the fight scenes and face paste and other things than to just have two actors. i highly doubt that an actor found to play dante will look like him anyway, let alone be an exact match so its a waste to make him play both parts when you could just get another actor and not struggle with cgi cuts and fixes.  

i hope you've kept up this time

now you give me an argument and not spew crap about how they're the same character model and people agree with you. 

 

Watch The One with Jet Li and you'll see how DMC could look with those effects

'nuff said

 

hahaha

can you name a good movie?

and your doing the same thing as before yes it can be done duh your still not paying attention

im saying it would be better with two people not that you cant do it with one. just cause they are the same in the game is the your reason for using one person. not good enough i need more support. whats another reason its highly unpractical to do that if you could use two actors.

your really slow

its like im arguing with a furby

ill await your second attempt
 

 

 Well Mr. ITS-Not-About-their-appearance, I seem to recall you saying this

Noob:

they do look different and they are two different people they need two people

Such a statement would make one think that appearance IS the issue.

However, I'll explain something to you, Furby collector.

If you hire an actor to do two roles, wouldn't that be cheaper than hiring TWO actors to do two roles?

Also, its for the sake of being faithful to the games

You obviously don't give a rat's ass about the game if you think that Dante and Vergil should be played by two non-identical people.

If its identical twins, fine. CG effects are probably expensive and they wouldn't need to be added if you already have to people that look exactly alike.

However, if no such twins can be found, its 100 times better to find someone who looks like Dante and Vergil and cast him as BOTH the roles.

Not only is it easy to do with camera angles and CG effects (Not to mention super imposing) its faithful to the game its based on!

look at Doom and Resident Evil. They skewed completely off the games and what they were about. They took RE and Doom canon and butchered it. Fans of the series are now saddened because they could have been better.

In the same way, you want to spit upon anyone who cares about the game, simply because you find something impractical? Wow, some DMC fan.

Think about it buddy, If they made it with two non-identical people simply to save money, they'd be alienating the majority of the audience! most fans of the game would see it once and never go to see it again and never buy it on DVD. Also, they'd tell their friends and their friends wouldn't go see it either because THEY were fans of the game as well! SO all you're left with are noobs who know nothing about the game. That's SIGNIFICANTLY less money to be made!

So in reality, its the MOST PRACTICAL THING TO DO!

Take a business course when you get to college, kid. Learn what makes people buy things. And while you're at it, study what DMC fans want. I've studied it since I am writing 4 DMC scripts! I NEED to know what they want! They don't want shortcuts like two different looking people playing Dante and Vergil, even if it costs less money for the filmmakers. They want faithfulness.

Take a look at this picture and tell me "Two different looking people can play them" Because regardless of what you say NOW, you said that before.

 http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/3/7/f_DanteVergilm_475e701.jpg

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The word Practical and One Man plays both roles go together like cream cakes and super strong ropes holding up highly explsive machine.

 Re directors

I dont agree with Danny Boyle cos i loath the guy but this Darren Amostky might be ok.(i havent figured out quoting yet)

Most DMC fans would say Dante and Vergil are two very diferent people.They wouldnt want it turned into some gimmicky one man plays two thing.The One that was mentioned earlier is a wicked film but it has flaws.One being it has a slight gimmickyness to it.

And the point about casting two similer men is that they would play two very diferent characters and it would be better.

Not the cost of all the pointless cgi or anything else.My point is some people get all excited about the cgi and effects and some very weird geeks go all out to make films and tv that push cgi levels and they are not even making the film or tv for the entertainment value.Beowulf clearly wasnt made to tell a story but indulge some sad pathetic wish to show off and try out some fancy and pointless cgi.

If you watch a fantasy film from the 80s the stunts are mostly real and the actors do most of the work.And you dont care about the ropiness of some of the effects cos the story is prominant.In other words you dont analise the sfx but watch the film as a film for its entertainment value.

Thats what we want from the DMC film/s. Something that is true to the games/anime/manga and draws you in and holds your attention for its entire span. 

Not some geek going ooh look, that isnt two men playing Dante and Vergil but one man. Yeah , they really pushed the envolope with that.Arnt the texture effects great, dosnt the cgi applied to his face make him look like Dante/ Vergil.Ooh, you can barely tell he is fighting a stuntman with his face blanked out.

We want a film that is fun and as brilliant as the rest of the DMC stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

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dae aue:

The word Practical and One Man plays both roles go together like cream cakes and super strong ropes holding up highly explsive machine.

 Re directors

I dont agree with Danny Boyle cos i loath the guy but this Darren Amostky might be ok.(i havent figured out quoting yet)

Most DMC fans would say Dante and Vergil are two very diferent people.They wouldnt want it turned into some gimmicky one man plays two thing.The One that was mentioned earlier is a wicked film but it has flaws.One being it has a slight gimmickyness to it.

And the point about casting two similer men is that they would play two very diferent characters and it would be better.

Not the cost of all the pointless cgi or anything else.My point is some people get all excited about the cgi and effects and some very weird geeks go all out to make films and tv that push cgi levels and they are not even making the film or tv for the entertainment value.Beowulf clearly wasnt made to tell a story but indulge some sad pathetic wish to show off and try out some fancy and pointless cgi.

If you watch a fantasy film from the 80s the stunts are mostly real and the actors do most of the work.And you dont care about the ropiness of some of the effects cos the story is prominant.In other words you dont analise the sfx but watch the film as a film for its entertainment value.

Thats what we want from the DMC film/s. Something that is true to the games/anime/manga and draws you in and holds your attention for its entire span. 

Not some geek going ooh look, that isnt two men playing Dante and Vergil but one man. Yeah , they really pushed the envolope with that.Arnt the texture effects great, dosnt the cgi applied to his face make him look like Dante/ Vergil.Ooh, you can barely tell he is fighting a stuntman with his face blanked out.

We want a film that is fun and as brilliant as the rest of the DMC stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, are you really this ignorant?

Do you really know how these things work?

Casting two "Similar" men, but not identical, would be the death of the movie.

Ask any REAL fan and they'll tell you the same thing.

That's like turning Chris Redfield into a blonde!

Or changing Sparda's demonic form!

its changing canon.

and you obviously don't care about doing that.

And I will restate my business point.

YOU DON'T produce enough revenue from movies that no one likes.

the fan base makes up a majority of the audience, since they will want to see it first (at like midnight showings) and then the rest of the world comes to see it because it looks cool.

If you start cutting corners by not producing a movie that meets the demands of the fan base, you are betraying them and yourself!

You lose money! They lose entertainment!

Its a lose-lose situation!

You obviously have no idea about business practices, in the film industry or otherwise.

Dante and Vergil being identical = practical and profitable

Dante and Vergil being two different (and yet not identical) guys = somewhat practical and carries the huge possibility of bombing

 

Think before you argue

Though, I suppose if you did that you wouldn't argue at all, would you?

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Dont you get all hoity toity with me about business crap.

 Who says  people wouldnt see a film with similer looking men playing twins. You? To back up your arguement you started wittering about business to detract from the emptiness of your arguement.

You assume a awful lot for one person. What you went out and asked every single DMC fan what theyd like did you.

I dont care what the empty world of films is like. I dont think you know more than I.And if you do you are going about it in a very overblown way.Methinks you protest too much.

What they want is money and there are a lot of DMC fans.

theyll see it whatever its like

The first port of call for the desperate.

Question someones fandom.

Do you really think that a film  with exessive cgi and trick work with fight scens that are shot on the wide with one guy with his back turned and up close only on one guys face at a time are going lure people to watch it.

Wouldnt people want to watch proper fight scenes that go on all the angles and show both men clearly.Some of the high points in DMC are the fight scenes.

Now bad fight scenes would really piss the fans off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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