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What happened to Vergil??

Last post 08-28-2008, 4:47 PM by Gluttony. 101 replies.
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  •  12-17-2007, 9:17 PM 249513 in reply to 247315

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Oh and I think that vergil was hypnotized to do what Mundus wanted.
    So many Demons so little time my bloody journey has come to an end.
  •  12-18-2007, 9:46 AM 249557 in reply to 246392

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Vergil fell into hell and faced Mundus but he lost because he never got Dante's amulet to make the perfect amulet so he became Nelo Angelo
  •  12-18-2007, 11:25 AM 249561 in reply to 249557

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Vergil_15:
    Vergil fell into hell and faced Mundus but he lost because he never got Dante's amulet to make the perfect amulet so he became Nelo Angelo

    Well, Close. Mundus likely turned him into Nelo Angelo. But you're right, he probably lost because he didn't have his father's power.


  •  12-20-2007, 9:34 AM 249735 in reply to 249561

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    It might be that vergil just got to Mundus, and Mundus made a deal with him, to give him more power, rather than actually having a fight.  But I think it's more likely that Mundus whupped him and took control of him.

  •  12-20-2007, 10:36 AM 249745 in reply to 249735

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    its possible, highly unlikely
    I
    Am
    The
    Devil's
    Fear....
  •  12-20-2007, 12:09 PM 249750 in reply to 249735

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Chrysander:
    It might be that vergil just got to Mundus, and Mundus made a deal with him, to give him more power, rather than actually having a fight.  But I think it's more likely that Mundus whupped him and took control of him.

    Impossible...the first part I mean

    Sorry to be so blunt, but its simply not the way it worked out.

    first, Vergil wanted to prove himself by beating Mundus, so he'd fight to the death, you know him. Plus, he would never bow to anyone or bend to their wishes. He's simply too arrogant for that. He'd rather get the power himself. Also, Mundus wouldn't NEED to make a deal with hiim if he could just simply defeat him and gain control over him.

    Finally, in DMC1 we see Nelo struggling as if he were fighting some memory within. My guess is after seeing the amulet he started to fight Mundus' control. The battle between Mundus' hold over him and the small part of Vergil remaining was apparent. However, I'm sure that Mundus strengthened his hold over him from then on. Perhaps until Nelo's final act of revealing his face. He may have hoped that would spur dante into defeating him and releasing him from Mundus' control.....maybe even to death...


  •  12-20-2007, 12:24 PM 249751 in reply to 249735

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Chrysander:
    I think it's more likely that Mundus whupped him and took control of him.

  •  12-20-2007, 1:30 PM 249757 in reply to 249751

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Chrysander:
    Chrysander:
    I think it's more likely that Mundus whupped him and took control of him.

    Exactly

    I was just showing that the other option was near, if not totally, impossible


  •  01-16-2008, 4:55 PM 254098 in reply to 249757

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    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    C'mon, now! Vergil's gotta come back and make another appearance one of these days! He and Dante are twins...right. Dante always comes back.

    Maybe the Verge was trasported to some other place and it's taking a long time for him to recover from the whole deal with Mundus and Dante defeating him....

    If Capcom doesn't bring him back in a future game, I will die a slow and sad death from shame...(and then come back to life as a zombie and get mad.)


    Vergil: Beautiful Dark Slayer...."The world has not killed me off yet....


    "Why we leave... well enough alone...
    Never thought about the shame...."
  •  01-22-2008, 5:55 AM 254948 in reply to 254098

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    The Rage:

    C'mon, now! Vergil's gotta come back and make another appearance one of these days! He and Dante are twins...right. Dante always comes back.

    Maybe the Verge was trasported to some other place and it's taking a long time for him to recover from the whole deal with Mundus and Dante defeating him....

    If Capcom doesn't bring him back in a future game, I will die a slow and sad death from shame...(and then come back to life as a zombie and get mad.)



    Yeah man.  Well I think the V man will play a part in DMC4, I think it would be crazy if he doesn't even show up.  But I am doubting whether he will be a playable character / costume... It would be cool if they just let you unlock a Vergil costume at least.  I have written an article about a proposed Vergil game, about what he did after arriving in the demon world, before battling Mundus: 

    http://www.welcometobonusstage.com/?page=game_articles_vergils_descent

    See what you think


  •  01-22-2008, 8:47 AM 254956 in reply to 249750

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Gilver i think u r right about vergil not subjecting himself 2 anyone,at least we all noticed that when arkham convinced him to defeat dante and take the amulet from him.Mind u,all that crap about defeating dante and taking the amulet waz not vergil's idea;it waz arkham's.And we all saw how he bruatly stabbed arkham;that proves that he is never influenced by anyone and he is not willing to share power with anyone else apart from dante:"why dante,why dont u want the power of our father sparda.Father,i dont have a father.I just dont like,that is all".    
    Now back to the hypothesis;in dmc2 when the portal to the demon world got open,and it waz apparent that mundus wanted to return,lucia voluntered to go and stop mundus and  dante tricked her by flipping a two headed coin and went instead.If u all observed the situation u will all ask ur selves the following questions:
      [1]why was dante desperate to go to demon world and face mundus knowing that once    he entered he might never return?and
      [2]why is that after defeating mundus he went deeper into the demon world with his power bike?
    My guess to no 1 question is that dante has no interest whatsoever in defeating mundus,he would have preferred mundus coming out to the open to confront him than him going to the underworld to face him.Dante was after something else.
    My no 2 answer is that he was going to the depths of hell to face no other person than vergil.
    Till now dante is still stuck in the demon world,that is why capcom decided to go back to dante's root in dmc3 and dmc4.Remember the time when lucia was in dante's shop and while flipping the coin realised dante tricked her into entering the demon world,she heard the sound of a bike outside and she went out to investigate;that is how dmc 2 ends.We dont know who the person was,some think it was dante and i say that is impossible.I mean it took sparda years before he could leave the demon world,do u guys think it would have taken dante a few mins to escape hell? Anyway i think the person on that bike was lady.
    As 4 vergil he is not dead i m sure of that, he is trapped in the demon world because he no longer has his amulet to escape hell(the key in and out of the demon world).So in dmc2 dante went to pay him a visit.

  •  01-22-2008, 8:51 AM 254957 in reply to 249750

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    dude i think u r right about vergil not subjecting himself 2 anyone,at least we all noticed that when arkham convinced him to defeat dante and take the amulet from him.Mind u,all that crap about defeating dante and taking the amulet waz not vergil's idea;it waz arkham's.And we all saw how he bruatly stabbed arkham;that proves that he is never influenced by anyone and he is not willing to share power with anyone else apart from dante:"why dante,why dont u want the power of our father sparda.Father,i dont have a father.I just dont like,that is all".    
    Now back to the hypothesis;in dmc2 when the portal to the demon world got open,and it waz apparent that mundus wanted to return,lucia voluntered to go and stop mundus and  dante tricked her by flipping a two headed coin and went instead.If u all observed the situation u will all ask ur selves the following questions:
      [1]why was dante desperate to go to demon world and face mundus knowing that once    he entered he might never return?and
      [2]why is that after defeating mundus he went deeper into the demon world with his power bike?
    My guess to no 1 question is that dante has no interest whatsoever in defeating mundus,he would have preferred mundus coming out to the open to confront him than him going to the underworld to face him.Dante was after something else.
    My no 2 answer is that he was going to the depths of hell to face no other person than vergil.
    Till now dante is still stuck in the demon world,that is why capcom decided to go back to dante's root in dmc3 and dmc4.Remember the time when lucia was in dante's shop and while flipping the coin realised dante tricked her into entering the demon world,she heard the sound of a bike outside and she went out to investigate;that is how dmc 2 ends.We dont know who the person was,some think it was dante and i say that is impossible.I mean it took sparda years before he could leave the demon world,do u guys think it would have taken dante a few mins to escape hell? Anyway i think the person on that bike was lady.
    As 4 vergil he is not dead i m sure of that, he is trapped in the demon world because he no longer has his amulet to escape hell(the key in and out of the demon world).So in dmc2 dante went to pay him a visit.
  •  01-22-2008, 8:55 AM 254958 in reply to 249750

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    dude i think u r right about vergil not subjecting himself 2 anyone,at least we all noticed that when arkham convinced him to defeat dante and take the amulet from him.Mind u,all that crap about defeating dante and taking the amulet waz not vergil's idea;it waz arkham's.And we all saw how he bruatly stabbed arkham;that proves that he is never influenced by anyone and he is not willing to share power with anyone else apart from dante:"why dante,why dont u want the power of our father sparda.Father,i dont have a father.I just dont like,that is all".    
    Now back to the hypothesis;in dmc2 when the portal to the demon world got open,and it waz apparent that mundus wanted to return,lucia voluntered to go and stop mundus and  dante tricked her by flipping a two headed coin and went instead.If u all observed the situation u will all ask ur selves the following questions:
      [1]why was dante desperate to go to demon world and face mundus knowing that once    he entered he might never return?and
      [2]why is that after defeating mundus he went deeper into the demon world with his power bike?
    My guess to no 1 question is that dante has no interest whatsoever in defeating mundus,he would have preferred mundus coming out to the open to confront him than him going to the underworld to face him.Dante was after something else.
    My no 2 answer is that he was going to the depths of hell to face no other person than vergil.
    Till now dante is still stuck in the demon world,that is why capcom decided to go back to dante's root in dmc3 and dmc4.Remember the time when lucia was in dante's shop and while flipping the coin realised dante tricked her into entering the demon world,she heard the sound of a bike outside and she went out to investigate;that is how dmc 2 ends.We dont know who the person was,some think it was dante and i say that is impossible.I mean it took sparda years before he could leave the demon world,do u guys think it would have taken dante a few mins to escape hell? Anyway i think the person on that bike was lady.
    As 4 vergil he is not dead i m sure of that, he is trapped in the demon world because he no longer has his amulet to escape hell(the key in and out of the demon world).So in dmc2 dante went to pay him a visit.
  •  01-22-2008, 11:26 AM 254962 in reply to 254958

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Wow...triple complex post!

     But one problem

    DMC2 is pretty much being cast off by Capcom since it sucked so bad...I mean they COULD remake it to be better and actually have a story...

    but there was no Lady at that point and I imagine they went back to Dante's roots (DMC3) to bring Vergil in for DMc4...not DMC2

    but this is all just theory...


  •  02-01-2008, 7:13 AM 257048 in reply to 254962

    Re: What happened to Vergil??

    Gilver:

    Wow...triple complex post!

     But one problem

    DMC2 is pretty much being cast off by Capcom since it sucked so bad...I mean they COULD remake it to be better and actually have a story...

    but there was no Lady at that point and I imagine they went back to Dante's roots (DMC3) to bring Vergil in for DMc4...not DMC2

    but this is all just theory...

     

    Alright..dere is somethin i have 2 be clear on,in dmc1 did dante do anything with vergil's amulet??cos i cold not finish it due 2 sum issues i was facing at that time. Mayb i cold make sumthin out of that.

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