dae aue:

Dont you get all hoity toity with me about business crap.

 Who says  people wouldnt see a film with similer looking men playing twins. You? To back up your arguement you started wittering about business to detract from the emptiness of your arguement.

You assume a awful lot for one person. What you went out and asked every single DMC fan what theyd like did you.

I dont care what the empty world of films is like. I dont think you know more than I.And if you do you are going about it in a very overblown way.Methinks you protest too much.

What they want is money and there are a lot of DMC fans.

theyll see it whatever its like

The first port of call for the desperate.

Question someones fandom.

Do you really think that a film  with exessive cgi and trick work with fight scens that are shot on the wide with one guy with his back turned and up close only on one guys face at a time are going lure people to watch it.

Wouldnt people want to watch proper fight scenes that go on all the angles and show both men clearly.Some of the high points in DMC are the fight scenes.

Now bad fight scenes would really piss the fans off.

 Business and profit is just one of my arguements

You can go over to IGN, the source of all DMC knowledge, and ask if it would be OK to make a DMC movie with Dante and Vergil played by non-identical people, or one person. Know, I know some would rather see twins, I would rather see twins. However, I am certain that they would choose CG effects over two different, though similar looking, guys.

Also, you think that camera angles and the Cg effects would RUIN a fight scene? Are you on something? Look at DMC3's opening cutscene. You see how they show only one at a time in close-ups, and rarely show them both? They didn't have to do that! A movie could be shot in the same way.

Again, your ignorance shows you to be a fool.

They COULD show both at once actually. An example would be The Chronicles of Riddick. Riddick and the Lord Marshal were fighting each other, right? Yes..But Vin Diesel and the other guy filmed their parts SEPARATELY!!

They were both there on camera and things were happening and it looked good. I didn't know about that trick until my sister told me.

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dae aue:

Dont you get all hoity toity with me about business crap.

 Who says  people wouldnt see a film with similer looking men playing twins. You? To back up your arguement you started wittering about business to detract from the emptiness of your arguement.

You assume a awful lot for one person. What you went out and asked every single DMC fan what theyd like did you.

I dont care what the empty world of films is like. I dont think you know more than I.And if you do you are going about it in a very overblown way.Methinks you protest too much.

What they want is money and there are a lot of DMC fans.

theyll see it whatever its like

The first port of call for the desperate.

Question someones fandom.

Do you really think that a film  with exessive cgi and trick work with fight scens that are shot on the wide with one guy with his back turned and up close only on one guys face at a time are going lure people to watch it.

Wouldnt people want to watch proper fight scenes that go on all the angles and show both men clearly.Some of the high points in DMC are the fight scenes.

Now bad fight scenes would really piss the fans off.

 Business and profit is just one of my arguements

You can go over to IGN, the source of all DMC knowledge, and ask if it would be OK to make a DMC movie with Dante and Vergil played by non-identical people, or one person. Know, I know some would rather see twins, I would rather see twins. However, I am certain that they would choose CG effects over two different, though similar looking, guys.

Also, you think that camera angles and the Cg effects would RUIN a fight scene? Are you on something? Look at DMC3's opening cutscene. You see how they show only one at a time in close-ups, and rarely show them both? They didn't have to do that! A movie could be shot in the same way.

Again, your ignorance shows you to be a fool.

They COULD show both at once actually. An example would be The Chronicles of Riddick. Riddick and the Lord Marshal were fighting each other, right? Yes..But Vin Diesel and the other guy filmed their parts SEPARATELY!!

They were both there on camera and things were happening and it looked good. I didn't know about that trick until my sister told me.

Its absolutely possible to have both on the screen at the same time. They wouldn't even have to shoot it separately! Some parts could be, and some parts can have a double with the actor's face superimposed. Its realistic and totally believable. And since when is CGI excessive? Do you not watch a movie because it has CG effects to make a character do something that couldn't normally be done? Beowulf is COMPLETELY CGI. THAT is excessive. Making DMC with one man as Vergil and Dante (Who only battle 3 times and therefore would be on screen simultaneously three times) is NOT excessive.

Remember Jurassic Park? Lex fell through the grate in the Vistitor's Center after the Raptor busted through it. She falls, holds on, looks up and is pulled back into the area above the ceiling.

did you know that was a stunt double? With Lex's face super-imposed onto her own face?

Life's full surprises.

Also, I can question your "fandom" and your knowledge of the film industry.

You know why? I've been a fan of DMC since it was Resident Evil 4.

AND I am working to become a writer and film-maker.

You can't question MY "fandom" or my knowledge.

Keep going though, your futile attempts at arguing amuse me.

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the entire fanbase of DMC is not going to assemble in one place ever.

And the whole deal with the opening scenes in DMC3 is to keep you on edge about who is fighting. Cos its shot backwards and and they want to keep you on edge about who got defeated and the kicker is when Vergil flicks his hair back.

And the fight scenes in Chronnicles of Riddick are not particularly good. They are a little cold and sterile.

The Vin Diesel, Lord Marshall scene in particular.

 

 

 

 

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dae aue:

the entire fanbase of DMC is not going to assemble in one place ever.

And the whole deal with the opening scenes in DMC3 is to keep you on edge about who is fighting. Cos its shot backwards and and they want to keep you on edge about who got defeated and the kicker is when Vergil flicks his hair back.

And the fight scenes in Chronnicles of Riddick are not particularly good. They are a little cold and sterile.

The Vin Diesel, Lord Marshall scene in particular.

What the hell are you talking about?

Who said the entire fanbase was going to assemble in one place?

I'm pretty damn sure I said the fan base is going to be the target audience. If they are dissatisfied, then you lose LOTS of money...

And even AFTER you find out who is fighting AND when they fight during mission 7, they are still rarely in same shot together. Or at least, they faces are rarely seen in the same shot. Next argument.

BTW, I don't care if you think the fight in tCoR was cold and sterile. First, because its your OPINION. And secondly, I was talking about the effects. It just seems you have a problem with every example I use. You seem to be mistaking my example for something I'd actually do. I'm talking about Special Effects and camera tricks. Just because one movie isn't as good as you want, doesn't mean its effects aren't good and can be improved upon.

So...What do you have a problem with next? hmm?

Perhaps you think that fans aren't a significant part of the audience and thus contribute to the overall revenue?

Or perhaps you think the a multi-million dollar movie should settle for two "similar looking" people playing identical twins even though its unprofessional?

Or maybe you'll go on to make points that you can't back up by facts. Like your "Its to keep you on the edge about who is fighting" "argument" even though cinematic evidence states otherwise.

go ahead, make my day 

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its really pointless to argue with you because your an idiot. if you took a business class youd know that it would be more expensive to use one actor with excessive cgi and that no one would be willing to spend that kind of money when a simpler less costly option is available. i didnt bother reading half of your long babel about fight scenes. its obvious you have no film knowledge.

and to say that fans wouldnt see it cause the actors didnt look the same is god damn ridiculous. your a fool if you think having identical actors is even a remotely large part of the movie.

to say the fan base is the target audience is also incredibly stupid. the target audience is the largest audience which would be attempting to make the movie appeal to people who havnt played the game. the fan base would merely be a base profit. reading your responses to dae aue were pretty funny though. you know nothing about business or profit let alone half of the other things you were talking about. this quote here was quite funny:

    Also, you think that camera angles and the Cg effects would RUIN a fight scene? Are you on something? Look at DMC3's opening cutscene. You see how they show only one at a time in close-ups, and rarely show them both? They didn't have to do that! A movie could be shot in the same way.

big number one is that Cg does ruin most fight scenes because the pasting and editing with movement so fast usually dont look correct. but there is no Cg in DMC because its a video game. before that one you said this:

    You can go over to IGN, the source of all DMC knowledge, and ask if it would be OK to make a DMC movie with Dante and Vergil played by non-identical people, or one person. Know, I know some would rather see twins, I would rather see twins. However, I am certain that they would choose CG effects over two different, though similar looking, guys.

another very stupid comment. any producer, director or anyone else in the film industry would pick two actors. and im pretty sure IGN isnt the source for DMC knowledge and i thought it was pretty funny that you think there choice for what to use has any relevance at all. i guess ill wait for some more mindless crap your going to spew about nothing.

why dont you go read a book or learn a little something about film or business or profits before you make your next post

although you probably wont so go ahead and give me another laugh. 

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Gilver:

dae aue:

Dont you get all hoity toity with me about business crap.

 Who says  people wouldnt see a film with similer looking men playing twins. You? To back up your arguement you started wittering about business to detract from the emptiness of your arguement.

You assume a awful lot for one person. What you went out and asked every single DMC fan what theyd like did you.

I dont care what the empty world of films is like. I dont think you know more than I.And if you do you are going about it in a very overblown way.Methinks you protest too much.

What they want is money and there are a lot of DMC fans.

theyll see it whatever its like

The first port of call for the desperate.

Question someones fandom.

Do you really think that a film  with exessive cgi and trick work with fight scens that are shot on the wide with one guy with his back turned and up close only on one guys face at a time are going lure people to watch it.

Wouldnt people want to watch proper fight scenes that go on all the angles and show both men clearly.Some of the high points in DMC are the fight scenes.

Now bad fight scenes would really piss the fans off.

 Business and profit is just one of my arguements

You can go over to IGN, the source of all DMC knowledge, and ask if it would be OK to make a DMC movie with Dante and Vergil played by non-identical people, or one person. Know, I know some would rather see twins, I would rather see twins. However, I am certain that they would choose CG effects over two different, though similar looking, guys.

Also, you think that camera angles and the Cg effects would RUIN a fight scene? Are you on something? Look at DMC3's opening cutscene. You see how they show only one at a time in close-ups, and rarely show them both? They didn't have to do that! A movie could be shot in the same way.

Again, your ignorance shows you to be a fool.

They COULD show both at once actually. An example would be The Chronicles of Riddick. Riddick and the Lord Marshal were fighting each other, right? Yes..But Vin Diesel and the other guy filmed their parts SEPARATELY!!

They were both there on camera and things were happening and it looked good. I didn't know about that trick until my sister told me.

Its absolutely possible to have both on the screen at the same time. They wouldn't even have to shoot it separately! Some parts could be, and some parts can have a double with the actor's face superimposed. Its realistic and totally believable. And since when is CGI excessive? Do you not watch a movie because it has CG effects to make a character do something that couldn't normally be done? Beowulf is COMPLETELY CGI. THAT is excessive. Making DMC with one man as Vergil and Dante (Who only battle 3 times and therefore would be on screen simultaneously three times) is NOT excessive.

Remember Jurassic Park? Lex fell through the grate in the Vistitor's Center after the Raptor busted through it. She falls, holds on, looks up and is pulled back into the area above the ceiling.

did you know that was a stunt double? With Lex's face super-imposed onto her own face?

Life's full surprises.

Also, I can question your "fandom" and your knowledge of the film industry.

You know why? I've been a fan of DMC since it was Resident Evil 4.

AND I am working to become a writer and film-maker.

You can't question MY "fandom" or my knowledge.

Keep going though, your futile attempts at arguing amuse me.

 

hey i found more crap at the end here

you have no knowledge of the film industry i question you even know what it is

and writing storys in your basement doesnt count as working to become a writer film maker

and that last line i mean wow i didnt know you were such an idiot

your hilarious 

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narcoleptic necropheliac:

 

hey i found more crap at the end here

you have no knowledge of the film industry i question you even know what it is

and writing storys in your basement doesnt count as working to become a writer film maker

and that last line i mean wow i didnt know you were such an idiot

your hilarious 

Actually, I have no basement. I write in my room on the second floor of my house.

And I do know what the film industry is. It just so happens that I've got a director already asking to look at my writings (not my DMC stuff, I've got a romantic comedy and a thriller in the works)

Your insults show a lack of imagination. Perhaps your mommy can help you look up more.

its really pointless to argue with you because your an idiot. if you took a business class youd know that it would be more expensive to use one actor with excessive cgi and that no one would be willing to spend that kind of money when a simpler less costly option is available. i didnt bother reading half of your long babel about fight scenes. its obvious you have no film knowledge.

Do idiots think they are idiots? Maybe, but if I were an idiot I wouldn't be qualified for a scholarship at Harvard or Yale...I could provide a link to thise information and a scan of my SAT scores if you want! That has nothing to do with this however...I will say you have no clue about what I just said. Compositing someone's face onto a double's body is not technically CGI. The Troll in LOTR was CGI, Jet Li's face on a stunt double's body is not.  Its a little technical, but you might want to check Wikipedia to find the details. And didn't I say twins would be best? I believe I did. But I'd rather have one guy playing two characters than two different looking guys playing TWINS. Seriously, its unprofessional and it belongs in a FANFILM, not the real multi-million dollar deal.

 

and to say that fans wouldnt see it cause the actors didnt look the same is god damn ridiculous. your a fool if you think having identical actors is even a remotely large part of the movie.

If you can't stick to the little details, how are you supposed to stick with the big ones? Vergil and Dante being identical twins is part of the story, get used to it.  Ignoring canon (which it IS canon) upsets fans and it creates big problems  

to say the fan base is the target audience is also incredibly stupid. the target audience is the largest audience which would be attempting to make the movie appeal to people who havnt played the game. the fan base would merely be a base profit. reading your responses to dae aue were pretty funny though. you know nothing about business or profit let alone half of the other things you were talking about. this quote here was quite funny:

    Also, you think that camera angles and the Cg effects would RUIN a fight scene? Are you on something? Look at DMC3's opening cutscene. You see how they show only one at a time in close-ups, and rarely show them both? They didn't have to do that! A movie could be shot in the same way.

big number one is that Cg does ruin most fight scenes because the pasting and editing with movement so fast usually dont look correct. but there is no Cg in DMC because its a video game.

The fans are the big hurdle. Everyone who makes a movie based off something with a fanbase knows that. Appealing to the newbs is easy onces you've satisfied the fans. What good is it to make newbs happy? You get the Resident Evil movies! You make Nemesis soem big hulking guy who is controlled via remote by Umbrella and turns good at the end....Do you want a similar situation for DMC? I know! Let's make Dante and Vergil HALF brothers! Technically, games are completely CG. What does CG stand for? Computer Generated...hmm...Where do you make games? on a computer...You won't have to edit movement, you just need to compsite someone's face onto someone else's body. The movement looks real and correct....gosh you are ignorant.

before that one you said this:

    You can go over to IGN, the source of all DMC knowledge, and ask if it would be OK to make a DMC movie with Dante and Vergil played by non-identical people, or one person. Know, I know some would rather see twins, I would rather see twins. However, I am certain that they would choose CG effects over two different, though similar looking, guys.

another very stupid comment. any producer, director or anyone else in the film industry would pick two actors. and im pretty sure IGN isnt the source for DMC knowledge and i thought it was pretty funny that you think there choice for what to use has any relevance at all. i guess ill wait for some more mindless crap your going to spew about nothing.

Yeah....Any director, huh? I suppose the directors of The One, The parent Trap and that one Van Damme movie(double impact) thought that making identical characters look different was a good idea...

why dont you go read a book or learn a little something about film or business or profits before you make your next post

although you probably wont so go ahead and give me another laugh. 

Actually, I did just that. I went to look for more info, just to see if I COULD be wrong...I am not. I know about the film industry, (Hell, I had to write a college paper on it!) and business and profit. My father is the national sales manager (er..he got promoted, I forget what his current job title is) for radio stations here and he is majorly involved in profits and stuff. I make sense to him, and he definitely tells me when I'm wrong.

There you go! Have a laugh!

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hahaha o wow

i liked your lack of imagination comment. lets try to be a little more creative next time.

why dont you send me one of these scripts.  

yay your qualified for an important school. good for you *pat on the back* if you have such qualifications why arnt you going to a film school.

and once again your not gonna find someone that looks like Dante anyway so you cant really get that canon. 

and if fans make the base then why did they get the budget to do a second and third resident evil. 

also video game graphics and cgi are completely different fields. so technically games are not cgi. not even close. cgi is computer graphics generated over a live shot. 

and its funny that you think  you know the film industry since someone wants to look at your stuff. join the club. tell me when something gets picked up.

and its unprofessional to use two characters? all the movies you named were terrible. Van damme? cmon now your really digging into the garbage for that one.

are you even in college yet?

doesnt sound like it. 

and what did you look up anyway? do you want to show me the facts that say using one person for two roles is the correct way cause id like too see that.

wow good job your dad agrees with you."majorly involved with profits and stuff" thats probably the stupidest thing ive ever heard. you wanna give me a job that doesnt involve profits?  he seems like such a genius on film running a radio station or whatever. 

 

 

 

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DouchemustdieDT:

hahaha o wow

i liked your lack of imagination comment. lets try to be a little more creative next time.

I can be as creative as I want to be! Though you seem to have trouble keeping the flies out of that gaping maw you call a mouth. Listen buddy, take your brain out of its jar and put it in the large round thing on your shoulders (Its called a head) but make sure you dust it out first. Run think-about-it.exe on your proverbial hard-drive and access the "creative insults" file. It should take you to a window filled with (as the title of the folder implies) some rather creative insults. Next time you get on here, type some in. Wait! Don't forget to breathe! Press "post" and breathe again. Wipe the drool off your face, and your done!

why dont you send me one of these scripts. 

I won't show you my whole script(s). My laptop's hard drive failed and I'm working on recovering my files, but luckily I have some earlier drafts on my Desktop. So I'll be able to go over them and send part of it to you. On all of the DMC sites I've posted parts on, I have not gotten ONE single bad review.  

yay your qualified for an important school. good for you *pat on the back* if you have such qualifications why arnt you going to a film school.

Well, I'm not going to Harvard or Yale. I had been curious about whether or not I could get into them and it turns out that I can. At least I wasn't only able to qualify for Podunk U....I'm sure you've considered it your top priority, right? I'm not going to film school yet because I am working for free college! College costs money, so instead of drowning myself in debt by taking out a loan or something, I'm working for my parents, who are trading housework and babysitting for college tuition! Yay! John Paul the great in San Diego is a good school, and I may just go there. 

and once again your not gonna find someone that looks like Dante anyway so you cant really get that canon.

Don't be so sure, if I know several people that could pass at him, there are probably plenty of people out there that do. For crying out loud, I am one person, I can't know all of the Dante look-alikes. 

and if fans make the base then why did they get the budget to do a second and third resident evil.

hype, and of course the regular audience. But that's my whole point. You think that its OK that tons of RE fans HATE the RE movies? Hell, I don't want to end up HATING the DMC movies! And when you satisfy the fans, you get THAT much more money. And we're talking a difference of taking in million of dollars more on the first weekend. Its common sense. 

also video game graphics and cgi are completely different fields. so technically games are not cgi. not even close. cgi is computer graphics generated over a live shot.

 

That would be correct. However, your missing the fact that I said it was a technicality. They are both generated by a computer first. If you want the crash course, watch a DVD extra sometime. But I guess you don't watch any movies with CGI in them...cuz apparently compositing a double is "Excessive" to you

and its funny that you think  you know the film industry since someone wants to look at your stuff. join the club. tell me when something gets picked up.

Quite frankly its a bit more than that. Right now he's making a western spoof after making an adventure movie spoof. I've already been getting casting directors and a cast ready for him. Though I'm not sure which of my scripts we're going to make first...

And again, I know quite a lot about the film industry and the process. Do you know what the hardest part about making a movie is? I do, and that because I interviewed my fellow filmmaker for one of my college courses (I'm transferring from this one to another one in case you try to poke holes in my statements) and spent hours researching websites for a research paper on filmmaking a scriptwriting.

and its unprofessional to use two characters? all the movies you named were terrible. Van damme? cmon now your really digging into the garbage for that one.

I suppose all movie are terrible to you...Gosh, how can you live?!? If I were you, I'd throw myself off of a rooftop. Perhaps your broken legs will make you appreciate things more. Get a grip man. Those movies weren't terrible and if there was anything bad about them (save for double impace, which is old) it wasn't because of the duplication.

You are a fool if you think so.

are you even in college yet?

doesnt sound like it.

Yep. I am. Though it shouldn't matter. My 10 year old sister has more sense than you.  

and what did you look up anyway? do you want to show me the facts that say using one person for two roles is the correct way cause id like too see that.

I looked up various film techiniques. not a big deal. I suppose I could run some numbers for you...And I suppose you could try to prove to me that it makes more sense to have two different looking guys playing IDENTICAL TWINS....The only time I've ever seen that tried was in a fanfilm...ugh 

wow good job your dad agrees with you."majorly involved with profits and stuff" thats probably the stupidest thing ive ever heard. you wanna give me a job that doesnt involve profits?  he seems like such a genius on film running a radio station or whatever. 

Well considering he earns millions of dollars for his company...I'd think that he'd have a lot of experience in business. And again, I've also got a director to back me up. Tell me, where do you get YOUR info? hmm? "Filmmaking for dummies"?...although even I have heard that's helpful. lol

Tell me when you get that linear thought software running. Don't strain yourself though. I wouldn't want you to end up like that guy on the X-Files (the episode with the roaches)

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ah wow. well im getting bored of you so im just gonna stop trying

almost all of those responses were completely missing the point of what i said 

although im astonished that you think a Van Damme film is good 

so i guess ill just wait for that script

since you lost your files or something.
 

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DanteMustDieDT:

ah wow. well im getting bored of you so im just gonna stop trying

Were you actually trying? I didn't notice

almost all of those responses were completely missing the point of what i said

I kinda doubt it since I went through each section individually to answer them. If I missed the point, then why don't you clarify? 

although im astonished that you think a Van Damme film is good

Do you even know what the Van Damme movie was? Double Impact. I personally haven't seen it, and I was actually referring to its duplication techniques. If you look up at my post you'll also see that I said "Save for double impact" (with a typo actually) which would automatically exclude it from the movies I am talking about. 

so i guess ill just wait for that script

since you lost your files or something.

Yeah, you will have to wait.

I had a damn hard-drive failure on my laptop, so its possible that all my work on there is lost for good. However I am trying to see if I can back-up the files using the backup wizard in the recovery manager. So if that works, you could have pats of the script sooner than you think. If not, then you'll have to wait til I re-revise the one on my desktop.

While you are waiting, here is my thread. Go back a bit and you'll see samples of my earlier work. Keep in mind I haven't even finished that work yet, and those are probably earlier unfinished drafts as well.  Search around from my DMC1 movie thread as well.
 

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im not gonna bother this is a waste of time.

go ahead throw some more insults my way your gonna get thrown off the site. 

 

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Nobody is going to throw anything anymore. Your argument is completely ridiculous. How do you guys find enough free time to post such long posts full of meaningless insults at each other? The better you are trying to look, the more pathetic you will appear. If you have the need to boost your ego, do it in PM, not in a public thread. Consider this as your last warning. Thank you.

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Zechra:

Nobody is going to throw anything anymore. Your argument is completely ridiculous. How do you guys find enough free time to post such long posts full of meaningless insults at each other? The better you are trying to look, the more pathetic you will appear. If you have the need to boost your ego, do it in PM, not in a public thread. Consider this as your last warning. Thank you.

It never takes me that long to come up with an answer to what he says.

Really though, the current variation of this topic centered around whether one guy, or two different looking guys could play Dante and Vergil in the event of an inability to find twins that look like them. Its a valid topic, so I'll continue on it.

Just as long as no one questions my knowledge of films and the industry...OR my intellligence

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you shouldent exspect every one to think your as great as you do. Just because one persan acts like a imature Idiet dosent mean every one gets too. For all any one knows, your intelligaence is not as great as you would say. in all honesty, you might be suprised as to how little you know. than again, you might be right, but no test would ever tell, what you know in films you might lack in somthing els. end of discussion and smart remarks. alright? more back on topic posts Debate on your topic, we wouldent stop that, whats getting us mod's angry is some of you have the in-ability to convay a message without slinging your ego along with it.

now please no more smart remarks after were trying to nicely warn people we just want every one to get along -_-'

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